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Why did we put so much effort for low end systems?
Published on February 19, 2006 By Draginol In GalCiv Journals

Some of my friends who work in the game industry (you know who you are) have been teasing me about why we put so much effort into low end hardware support.  That is, GalCiv II supports kind of ridiculously low end hardware. 

I mean after all, who has an 800Mhz computer?  What gamer has a really low end graphics card?  Those people don't play games. They won't buy games. So why support them?

Our view is that it's not low end desktop users that we're targeting. Sure, they benefit from the work but it's LAPTOP users who play it. Our company's IP attorney, who is in his mid 50s, plays strategy games on his laptop when he travels (which he does considerably).  His home machine is plenty powerful but his laptop isn't quite as powerful.  And we think there are a lot of people out there who do this kind of thing.

Tell us what you think? Does laptop playability matter to you?


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on Feb 23, 2006
I'm in that case so I'm very happay that you think about guys like us!
on Feb 23, 2006
I haven't owned a desktop PC in the last five years AT ALL. I played GalCiv I on a laptop and it's the same with GalCiv II. I since have upgraded to a Dell XPS which is about as "high end" for gaming as laptops go, but I'm still happy that you considered mobile users.

With the way my life goes right now (studying, many different jobs) high mobility is the key for my systems and there's really no reason two buy a second PC (not even for gaming) nor do I have the money for that. I think that an increasing number of people are playing on laptops and I also think that this number will only increase. Mobile systems are on the rise.
on Feb 23, 2006
The performance gap between laptops and desktops has been narrowing steadily for years. My current laptop, a Sager 5720, can blow my desktop's performance out of the water, and it was a hotrod two years ago. My laptop has a 17" screen, GeForce 7800, 2gb of ram, full keyboard, a tiny little built-in subwoofer for the 4 speakers, and plenty of USB ports for me to plug a real mouse into.

Obviously I didn't need the low-end machine optimizations, but other laptop support issues like widescreen format do crop up with some games. I see it less often than I did even just a few years ago though, modern games like Civ 4 and WoW adapt well enough to the laptop.

Galciv is installed on both my machines. At home I prefer the 22" screen acreage of my desktop, but I'm not home a whole lot, so I like to take my games with me. And even sometimes at home I'll play on the laptop, if I'm into a particular map and don't want to switch to a different one.
on Feb 23, 2006

I have a 800mhz cpu with 8 mb video card laptop .

on Feb 24, 2006
Thank you for making the game useable for people with older computers. That's why I had to skip buying Civ IV.

I just don't feel like spending $1500 to buy a new computer, plus the massive hours it takes to re-install everything that works fine on the old computer, when the old computer does everything I NEED it to do (internet, Word, Excel, even develop ASP.NET web applications) except play games.

And talking about games you can take with you, have you guys considered making any games for the Sony PSP? I bought one (only $250, a tiny fraction of the cost of buying a new computer), but there are no good strategy games. The PSP should surely be powerful enough for a good strategy game, no? I used to play MOO 1, the best game ever, on a 25 MHZ 486, and the Sony PSP is at least 10 times as powerful as that.
on Feb 25, 2006
I completely agree. I have a nice gaming rig but I mostly play games on my laptop (nothing beats playing a tbs on my laptop while I'm in my bed )

I was pleasantly surprised to learn that GalCiv II runs fine on my 2 years old laptop that has a lousy ATI Mobility 7500 card with just 16MB video ram.

The ironic thing is that GalCiv II runs smoother on my laptop than GalCiv I did
on Feb 27, 2006
laptop user here ... thank you!
on Mar 06, 2006
Same here, even though my laptop wouldn't be considered low end, it's still good to see you think about that stuff. That's why I really appreciate Stardock's work. They care for the customers; seriously...
on Mar 06, 2006
For some reason the game plays like a slug on my Dell 8600 w/ GeForce 2 Go 5200... any ideas?
on Mar 06, 2006
For some reason the game plays like a slug on my Dell 8600 w/ GeForce 2 Go 5200... any ideas? Seems like the machine can't handle the graphics at all - scrolling is slllooowww.
on Mar 06, 2006
I have a rather average laptop with a cruddy Intel integrated video card, 512, and a 1.7 or so Centrino, and it runs GC2 wonderfully. I was quite happy to discover that it runs well, works with the widescreen on the monitor, and can even alt-tab if I don't mind a bit of chunking.

Of course, I discovered this at about midnight in bed when I idly copied it over from my desktop machine to test it, and some five hours later finally went to bed...
on Mar 06, 2006
Havent tried running it on my lappie.. should be fine apart from the 64mb vram on the fx5600.

If it does run itll be great, i spend about 4.5 months a year around the world...
on Mar 07, 2006
OK since you're all basically just saying what computer you have, I'll say this...not everyone can afford to buy a beefy desktop with above a 800mHz processor; I go to a military school and all I have is a simple laptop. Battlefield 2 doesn't work, America's Army barely works, and most strategy games just crawl along. I think it's awesome that StarDock cares about the people who aren't complete geeks and/or get mommy to buy them an Alienware.
on Mar 07, 2006
A resounding YES!! I travel quite a bit and the work laptop is my constant companion. At home I have another laptop (3.2 gHz but only a Geforce 5600 - old driver so 1D8 wouldn't work, but went out to NVIDIA and got the new one to install - HP didn't have it.) and 2 older PC's, 1 of which is a 780 athalon (still) running 98SE. Haven't tried GC2 on it yet, but ran quite a few games on GC1/AP on it.

On another note, I really do appreciate the continuing efforts to tweak and correct the game - even if they come faster than my game completion rate
on Mar 07, 2006
I use my laptop all the time, and sure enough if the game didn't run decently on it, I wouldn't even consider buying it. Also, it's a nice move for low end desktop users which are not upgrading often because they can't afford it. Nice game are a scarce resource for them. So, thanks for them too...
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