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My review and experience with it
Published on May 1, 2005 By Draginol In Home Improvement

If you decide you want to finish your basement there are lots of options to consider.  Do you do it yourself? Do you contract it out? Maybe do a little in between? For me and my wife, we just aren't handy enough to try to finish a basement on our own.  So we decided we'd contract the whole thing out.

Once you decide you're going to contract it out, then it's a matter of deciding what direction to take with it. Do you go with drywall? The problem with drywall is that it takes months to put in (how long do you want contractors going in and out of your house?).  It makes a lot of mess (expects months if not years of drywall dust to be floating around your house), it's susceptible to damage from a wide range of sources (water, normal wear and tear due to it being in a basement).  So we wanted our basement finished but drywall had a lot of negatives to it.

That's when we heard about the Owens Corning Basement System.  After intense negotiations, we had it done.  And below you can read about our experiences during the sales process, installation, and after effects.  I hope you find it useful.

The Owens Corning Basement System has been in place now for our basement for about a month now so I've had time to get used to it.

The project went pretty smoothly except for a few hiccups that I'll talk about here. So what's the verdict? Here are the things I really liked about it:

  1. It's fast. In 2 weeks it's all done.
  2. It's clean. No dry wall dust all over.
  3. It's durable. It's virtually impossible to damage. Basements, unlike the rest of the house, are more prone to dings since that's where most people store things too.
  4. It's virtually sound proof. This was an unexpected benefit. But the kids can go and play down there without having to hear music, TV, yelling throughout the house.
  5. It looks pretty nice still (but not as nice as dry wall in my opinion).
  6. It is nice to know that in 20 years it'll look the same as today. Dry wall in basements tend to not look so good. At best you'll have to repaint larger areas. With this, you don't have to.

The big thing for us though was the speed of it. My first basement was done with dry wall and I have no regrets about that. It was nicely done. But it took months to do and over a year for the house to stop having more dust in it than before. The dry wall dust simply gets everywhere.

If you're as unhandy as me, then you likely want contractors to do pretty much all the building. It can be uncomfortable having strangers in your house for months. In contrast, the Owens Corning Basement System was installed in our roughly 1100 to 1200 square foot area in about 2 weeks (closer to 10 days).

In short, I was willing to pay a premium to not have to deal with a summer of construction. The fact that it looks nice and can't be damaged easily was a real bonus. My 3 year old already put that to the test by taking a permanent marker to one of the walls. In a few minutes we were able to wipe it off with some bleach and you can't even tell where it was. Contrast that to having to repaint that area with a dry wall basement. Not to mention all the nicks and gouges that would be there due to moving stuff down there.

That said, here are things that I ran into that I didn't like that you should be aware of:

I really didn't like the sales strategy of their sales people. High pressure combined with little specifics created a lot of headaches during the project.

First off, people who can afford to pay a premium for their basement being done aren't fools. Even so, they used the same tactic on us as they would on some gullible yokel. No offense, but the reason we can afford this stuff is because we have some financial savvy. So don't march into our houses with magazines showing that the "Average" basement costs over $50 per square foot to finish. Because that's nonsense and does more to harm your sale than anything else. Sure, if you're going to have bathrooms and kitchens and tiled areas and wet bars and such it will cost more, but the Owens Corning System doesn't take care of any of that. They just do the "walls", drop down ceiling, electrical, and a few other things. They're not going to build you a bar or tile your floor for you (unless you make a special deal with them). Just for reference, a typical basement done with dry wall with nothing too fancy done shouldn't cost much more than $20 per square foot. Our last dry wall basement cost around $17 per square foot.

The price you should try to get with the Owens Corning Basement System is somewhere between $25 and $35 per square foot. They may balk at $25 but $35 they should certainly take. I paid about $28 per square foot. $30 per square foot would be good. Anything much higher and you're paying too much. Which is why they do the high pressure tactic to get you to sign right there.  To the sales guy's horror, I made him sit there while I had my laptop doing net searches on how much other people have paid. By the way, be aware that most states do have a law that allow you to back out of contracts within 72 hours. So if they did manage to get you to commit for $55 per square foot or something you aren't up the creek.

The second thing I didn't care for was the amount of vagueness to the agreement. Because of the high pressure sales tactics, the sales guy didn't write down a lot of our specific needs on his "agreement" (which was literally just a 1 page form he hand wrote notes on which I was pretty unhappy about). For instance, we said we wanted padded carpet so he suggested Home Depot. Which we did. But they didn't cut the doors so that they would fit on padded carpet so when we put in the carpeting, we had to take off the doors. It took us 3 weeks to get them to make good on this. They argued it wasn't their responsibility to fix the doors. Nonsense. We told them up front that we were going to get padded carpet. For us to fix would have meant bringing in another contractor. They agreed to fix it only after I made it clear that I would ensure that my experiences with the Owens Corning Basement System would show up high on google. It took the guy 30 minutes to fix it once he dropped by. So they made good but it did mar an otherwise fairly seamless experience.

So make sure that you are clear (and document) exactly what they do and what they expect you to do. The Owens Corning contractors don't tend to do as much as regular full service basement contractors. They weren't planning on putting in our phone and cable lines for example but luckily that was written into that agreement.

Thirdly, the only negative I've run into since putting it in is that it is, contrary to what they said, not that easy to hang things up on the walls. Since they're not drywall, you can't just put in a nail and put stuff up. You have to use special clipper thingies. These work nice on light things. But they didn't give us any samples or directions or order forms to get things for putting up heavier items (like a big white board for example). This has been a source of some ire since it's turning out not easy to find these "mending plates" in low quantities. Office Max and Staples don't seem to have them. None of the hardware stores we've looked at have them. I've looked on the net and I can buy them in quantity (like 1000 at a time) but I only need like 5. My suggestion is to insist that they provide you with 100 of the t-pins (small stuff) and 100 mending plates (big stuff) as part of the agreement.

Fourthly, this gets back to the "customers are suckers" sales pitch. The sales guy and his materials really went hard on the mold scare tactic. Mold is definitely something not to blow off. But it should not be your motivating factor to spend a third again as much on a basement. Would you pay $15000 more on your house for a "lightning strike resistant" design? The kinds of houses most people who would put this stuff in are usually newer and on the premium side. The basements, in short, don't get wet very easily. That isn't to say they shouldn't mention mold, but it should be more of a "bonus" feature rather than as the principle selling point.

Now that it's all done, I'm pretty happy with it. I like knowing that I won't have to mess around with painting or touching up the basement in a few years. I do wish it was easier to modify with other things. For instance, I can't just build out a bar from it. But that is no biggie really. The basement does what it was supposed to do. And even better, since I want to have a theatre down there eventually, it's got incredible acoustics. If you have the money and are more interested in having your basement be finished quickly and cleanly rather than having some incredible basement palace created, this is something you should seriously consider.

Completion date: September 2003.

Update: September 2005: I have created a second article for people who want to share their experiences (good and bad) with the Owens Corning Basement System. GO HERE to discuss.

update: 10/2003 - still pretty happy with the basement. thanks for all your emails. if you have any questions, ask them in the comments area or you can email me at

update: 5/1/2005 - still happy with how it's turned out. I get a  lot of email on this stuff from people, I don't usually get to answer it. But I will say that we are happy with it still. It absorbs sound. But I maintain that the main reason to get it is that you want to save time. If you don't mind having people working on your basement for 6 to 10 weeks and the drywall dust and other dirt that is inevitable with dry-wall then get the dry-wall.  But for me, having it all over in a week or so was the key and no mess afterwards.

Comments (Page 47)
on Mar 03, 2006
I had my basement done by OC last year. I signed the contract in Feb and asked them to wait until mid April since I had to finish some things I’ve started in the basement. The two men crew showed up on schedule and finished the job in 16 work days - they estimated the job as 12 days job but one of the contractors got sick and he was off for a few days.
I have a large basement - a little over 1250 sq. ft. They finished 900 sq ft. and created also a large storage area, small sump-pump closet/storage area and walk-in closet space - total of 300 sq ft unfinished space. They installed 4 doors - one external door with glass, 2 doors leading to the walk-in closet and the sump pump closet and a double door to the storage area. They had to box in some pipes from the heating, plumbing and AC and some support beams, and install nice pole covers on 3 support columns. Small space under the staircase was finished by OC to accommodate refrigerator and microwave oven with additional outlets. Railing was installed in the staircase to bring it to code. They installed 18 can lights separated in 4 zones plus 5 additional utility lights in the unfinished spaces - total of 23 lights and 7 light switches. Installed 2 phone jacks and 2 cable TV outlets at specified by me locations. The electrical included all outlets by code on every wall, 2 electric heaters with separate runs to the electric panel, breakers for each zone, etc everything done by code. They did the ceiling and left me with 2 boxes of spare ceiling tiles. I asked them to install the ceiling as tight as possible to gain more headroom and I think they did the job very well. The guy also asked me what I’ll be doing for flooring and when I said that I’ll be installing DriCore, he did all doors and trim to accommodate the height of the DriCore panels. I had no problems installing the dricore and the carpet afterwards. They also left me with some spare parts - trim and PVC pieces from the system should I need them. OC doesn’t do painting so I had to paint the wooden boxes for the pipes but they used primed pine so the painting was easy! They also installed nice wall cabinet as access panel to my dry well cleaning port and access panel in the ceiling for the phone system. They also installed vents between the finished space and the storage area where the furnace is located.
Overall they did very good job! It was done very professionally and very clean. I can’t imagine the whole thing done for 16 days using dry wall.
In few months will be a year since I had the basement done and I couldn’t be happier! Looks very nice and as bonus the system has excellent acoustical properties to complement my home theater system. Part of the basement is also an office space and looks very good with office furniture! I have no complaints whatsoever!
Now going back in to the sales pitch. I first saw the system at a home improvement show and did some research before the visit from the OC sales person. I made clear that I am familiar with the system and I don’t need demo or lengthy mold discussion. I also told the guy that I am aware how much ppl pay on average for the system and we should cut to the chase saving ourselves the bushtit calls to the boss and other cheap sales tactics. I guess the guy had to do his job though, so initially he quoted me at over $46 000 and when I said that he has to come down in price or we have no deal and ill be doing dry wall, he started with the discounts and all that. At the end - the price I paid was $32 000. Similar dry wall job would have cost me $12-14K less but I like the system and I've been searching for solution other than dry wall for years so I was happy to discover the OC system. I don’t care about the "mold scare" - never had mold problems before but basement is a basement - you never know when you are going to get water leak, a crack in the concrete, sump pump will fail or a pipe will burst and then the cost of the repair plus the inconvenience will be huge if you have dry wall.
The access to the basement walls is also very nice thing - you can run all kinds of cables really easy plus the OC system provides you with special cable channel at the bottom of the wall (covered by the trim) so it makes installing Home Theater or computer a snap!
You can’t paint the walls but so what? The color is nice and works well with different types of furniture. OC provides you with special kit for hanging pictures.
Yes - it could be a little cheaper than that and they can save us the sales crap with the pricing but if you want your basement done the right way I think is the way to go.
I am happy with the system and would recommend it to anyone who can afford it.
I have no affiliation with OC or the franchise which did my basement (I live in CT btw) - just a happy customer!
P.S. It is very helpful if you know what exactly you want done to you basement and have a clear plan before the sales guy shows up.
on Mar 06, 2006
I am having Bob Showers Basement Remodeling out for an estimate on Saturday. They used to be an Owens Corning Basement installer, but stopped about 3 years ago, the salesman said they stopped selling that because of some teflon / cancer lawsuit and created their own system.
They said they don't use studs to create walls. Will update next week.
on Mar 17, 2006
I think some of what is going here reflects the fact that the system is sold via franchises. I'm in Maryland and I had to almost literally throw the obnoxious salesman out of my house. I work in HVAC and know about mold issues and indoor air quality. The salesman tried hard to scare my wife to death by severly overstating the mold issue and talkng about my kids before I shut him down. No one will ever sell me anything by strongarm fear tactics combined with a high-pressure "must sign tonight" process. I couldn't care less if the system is any good or not. I WILL NOT DO BUSINESS WITH PEOPLE WHO ACT THAT WAY!! I wish no one would buy this stuff so those sorts of selling practices would disappear.

I have a friend who lives in PA just over the Maryland line and he had a salesman out from the same franchise and had the same experience.

The salesman said his construction company covered Maryland, Northern Va. and parts of Pennsylvania...if you live in those areas, watch out! If you live somewhere else, maybe it's not so bad.
on Mar 27, 2006
On March 11, we had a guy give us an estimate from "Bob Showers" called "Total Basement Solutions". They used to sell Owens Corning Basement, but said they stopped when they found out about some Teflon - cancer risk in the material. The "TBS" system is 4' x 8' sheets of commercial-grade cement board glued to a 4-inch thick piece of foam insulation, which has no food for mold, and can get wet without getting damaged. They drizzle some design with vinyl on the concrete board to make it look like a fabric and look similar to OCBS (although the TBS is paintable). The walls have an R-13 value. Studs are not used, as the panels are drilled directly to the concrete basement walls, and then covered up with a strip down the seam. I wasn't too thrilled about it, since I can buy cement board and 2 inch thick foam insulation for about $20 - $25 each 4 foot section. The cost was $28,000 with ceilings for a 1000 sq. ft basement. Owens price was $33,000.

I think I will be doing the work myself.
on Mar 27, 2006
On March 11, we had a guy give us an estimate from "Bob Showers" called "Total Basement Solutions". They used to sell Owens Corning Basement, but said they stopped when they found out about some Teflon - cancer risk in the material. The "TBS" system is 4' x 8' sheets of commercial-grade cement board glued to a 4-inch thick piece of foam insulation, which has no food for mold, and can get wet without getting damaged. They drizzle some design with vinyl on the concrete board to make it look like a fabric and look similar to OCBS (although the TBS is paintable). The walls have an R-13 value. Studs are not used, as the panels are drilled directly to the concrete basement walls, and then covered up with a strip down the seam. I wasn't too thrilled about it, since I can buy cement board and 2 inch thick foam insulation for about $20 - $25 each 4 foot section. The cost was $28,000 with ceilings for a 1000 sq. ft basement. Owens price was $33,000.

I think I will be doing the work myself.
on Apr 01, 2006
just completed our basement. did 1,100 sq ft for $31,000; awesome contractor. went above and beyond needs. i hired the installer to build a first class stairwell with ballisters, and a closet under the stairs. they went above and beyond. took three to four weeks. home depot did carpet, which was a first class install as well. All in, with carpet and some add on electrical touches, we spent about $35K for the 1,100 ft with three closets. in our area, homes sell for $200 per foot, but basement will easily get us an additonal $100k for our house if we sell it.
on Apr 23, 2006
To begin with I need to be 100% honest as it is to my best interest to promote the TBS system over the OC system. As you, I had a choice to make. I can just tell you my perception and my personal experience.

The TBS Basement Completion System was in R & D for over 2 years . The testing results are quite unique, professional, well documented, and truly out standing. All components are tested and code compliant and well documented by prominent certified testing labs. The outside corners, inside corners and seam batten strips have been fully tested and are code compliant. The trim pieces are are tested and actually exceed code requirements. Certified testing results are available to all of our dealers that offer the system nationwide from conception of the program. The fire resistant surface is also tested and code compliant as to protect the extruded foam.

The finishing surfaceis also code compliant . It was mentioned that the TBS surface is of paper but it is actually mold resistant and not paper (optionally) since a basement may be damp and paper would more readily be a great food source for mold.

The materials are manufactured as not to separate as is commonplace with manufactured housing requirements. These materials have been fully evaluated by one of the largest and most prominent manufactures in the USA. In fact the heat resistant adhesive used is another staple of the industry that also has been tested, certified and has been in use for years and does not contain TEFLON.

The insulation can not shrink due to the density and is in panel form before becoming the finished product . The reference to shrinking foam that was sprayed is obviously foam that was used in another case and was applied and had to cure unlike the insulation in this system. This then in the case of the TBS system case would not have any application. This insulation will not soak up water like fiberglass and meets the requirements of the IRC currently as it’s covered with a certified pre-tested fire resistnt covering to include seams and that also meetscorner test requirements required by the IRC.

” A complete system test is recent but has been addressed. Safty and code testing compliance /spec sheets are being made available to installers nationwide. Certified test documentation to support all claims is a standard TBS resource provided to dealers in order for them to secure building permits and thus part of the TBS dealer program. Concerning the attachment issue among over 120 other design/features/issues are part of the TBS system patent application that CLAIMS uniqueness over system and conventional methods. Every thing is UL approved as electric is conventionally applied by a certified electrician and subject to electric inspection. The average basement can be installed in just days compared to weeks employing conventional methods..

A nationwide dealer network consisting of Boston, Connecticut, Long Island, Philadelphia, New Jersey, Columbus, Cleveland, and Kansas City. Several other dealerships are pending. Some TBS dealerships are the largest remodelers in the USA. See featured in Qualified Remodelers.

The Owens Corning System is much different than the TBS system as it in wet conditions has the problem with getting saturated with moisture especially in flooding. TBS panels are extremely water resistant unlike their fiberglass and fabric. The TBS system also has less fasteners and drilling the foundation constantly is not needed and installs cutting off up to days off each installation. The TBS system additionally CLAIMS uniqueness of being code compliant above grade as well as it can optionally ordered to be up to R-19 unlike Owens Corning that is just approved for below grade and is only R11. The surface on the TBS system is very easily cleaned unlike OCs hard to clean fabric (Although TBS may in time offer a fabric as on the Owens Corning Sytem although TEFLON due to recent health concerns will most likely not be utilized. Search the web for the dangers of TEFLON on fabric. The decortive trim is of non-wood and additionally is mold resistant as well. This also has been tested by a certified lab and is code compliant as are all components.

Owens Corning installers often times install systems above grade and since the system is only R-11 and does not have a vapor barrier it is actually not code compliant. This often slips by while getting permits as many feel that since it is for a basement and is Owens corning it must be pre-approved and worthy of a building permit. Actually the OC system is compliant only for below grade (only). Above grade testing of the OC system fails to comply to code due with lack of R-Value (When at R-11) and vapor barrier requirements. The TBS system resolveds and has patented (pending) this issue as can be optionally ordered at R-19 and higher plus the insulation meets vapor barrier requirements.

I was recently told that the Owens Corning basement wall system may have a very serious Teflon coating issue on the fabric and may have to be recalled as the form of Teflon used is in a very non-stabilized form and extremely concerning. The TBS system is a safer healthier way of adding enjoyable living space while minimizing or totally eliminating the fears of Teflon, water damage, staining, fire,, fiberglass saturation, airborne fiberglass, and mold food source concerns. THE TBS surface is once again a long time staple of the wall covering industry and is mold resistant unlike wall paper or the paper on gypsun. Time will tell the validity of this Owens Corning Teflon DANGER but Owens Corning due to past asbestos liabilities was forced into bankruptcy and this may be another poor judgment on their part. This has not yet been confirmed.

The TBS materials are nothing new just revolutionary as to the utilization and designs that are patent pending . Please feel free to research the following links as to determine if the Owens Corning basement system has issues with Teflon in a non-stable form that is the most dangerous of all. Some feel the OC system surface chemicals that traets the fabric as it is normally harder to clean may be the next Owens Corning Asbestos disaster.

July 19, 2005 - Class Actions filed on behalf of consumers exposed to C8 from cookware


Two Florida law firms have filed class action lawsuits in 8 states representing 14 consumers exposed to C8 (a.k.a. perfluorooctanoic acid or PFOA) while using non-stick cookware. The lawsuit could ultimately represent nearly one-third of the American populace - anyone who has ever purchased non-stick cookware. The suits, which seek $5 billion in damages, alleges that Teflon manufacturer failed to warn of the potential dangers of exposure. The lawsuits have been filed in California, Florida, Illinois, Michigan, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Texas. The suits seek to have DuPont to replace the cookware and add warning labels to products coated with C8 as well as set up two separate funds: a medical monitoring fund and another to fund scientific research on the potential hazards of exposure to C8. DuPont has sold or licensed over $40 billion in Teflon cookware over the past 40 years. The chemical, which was invented in 1938, is also used in other products including fire fighting foams, auto fuel systems, phone cables, computer chips and stain resistant clothing. Associated Press, PR Newswire on 07/19/2005

July 11, 2005 - DuPont scientist found birth defects possibly linked to C8 over 20 years ago


In a sworn statement given during deposition, DuPont's former medical director revealed that more than 20 years ago the company became aware of birth defects in 2 of 8 children born to women who worked at one of their facilities manufacturing Teflon. The number of birth defects was considered "significantly greater" than the expected rate of birth defects found among the general public. The DuPont researcher looking into the birth defects estimated that similar birth defects would occur in the general public at a rate of 2 in every 1,000 births, not 2 in 8 births by female employees. At that time, the DuPont researcher recommended that the company do a detailed study to determine if exposure to C8 was to blame. DuPont never performed the study nor did they report the findings of the birth defects to the EPA. One month before the DuPont researcher became aware of the birth defects, 3M notified DuPont that it had found evidence of facial birth defects in baby rats exposed to C8. The chemical is one of the ingredients used in the manufacture of Teflon. Tens of thousands of residents of Ohio and West Virginia have filed lawsuits seeking damages over the potential for adverse health affects caused by exposure to C8 in their drinking water. "Fueled in large part by internal corporate records uncovered by the residents' lawyers, the EPA in April of 2003 launched a high priority investigation of C8's dangers." Knight Ridder Tribune Business News on 07/11/2005

As a basement contractor for over 13 yaers and after installing many owens corning basements and now only involved with the TBS system some may feel I would naturally slant my expressions but I am far from alone. See and compare to and make your own conclusion. Once again I readily admit I am sold 1000% on the TBS system . I have assembled them both, sold them both and am extremly familair with both. I am currently 100% involved with the TBS system and no longer associated with the OC program as are many others nationwide. Do not get me wrong both have benifits but the concerns that I had with the OC system and the benifits to me personally to promote the TBS system are just personally to my best interest!! (I sincerly feel it is also also to your best intesest to go with the TBS system)

Asthetically the TBS system is hands down a much higher end look . The decor is 2nd to none.

Once again I admit do benifit only from the TBS system and so you make your own decision after you do as I have. Look at the facts and make your own conclusion as you are the one that has to live with your decision not to mention your family and/or partner. I personally decided to avoid the health concern of TEFLON altogether for now. "Ask my wife as we no longer cook using teflon coated pots and pans."

on Apr 23, 2006
The TBS (TOTAL BASEMENTSOLUTIONS) system is also available most of New York not just Long Island as well as Ohio and the New England states!! Once you see both of the the demonstration you will know/see the difference. "Saying is 1 thing, seeing is another! "
on May 30, 2006
I had an OC basement finished about 2 weeks ago. It was done quickly and is pretty sound proof, so at first I was very pleased. There was a strong smell initially, but I assumed that was just due to the panels being new. As it turns out the smell has not gotten much better and I've been having some problems breathing and my eyes have been burning when I go down in the basement for more than 30 minutes or so. I have never had such symptoms before so I started looking around the internet to see if anyone else had similar experience with an OC basement. When I had the sales guy out before buying the thing, I explicitly asked him if there were any hazardous materials used in the manufacture of the the panels and he assured me that there were not. This is where I was gullible. After searching around some more I was pretty shocked to learn that the panels have known carcinogen's in them (see the material safety data sheet in an earlier post in this thread). I have a small child and I'm sickened over this and more than just a little frightened. How can Owens Corning get away with selling this poison? Has anyone else had similar health symptoms after installing an OC basement. Can anyone offer some advice on what I could do next? I'm not even sure how to safely go about removing the stuff and what course of action I could take to recoup my money. If others have had similar experiences please reply to this post as I'd like to continue this discussion. Mostly I'm concerned that others will suffer from this in the long term potentially as OC markets this heavily toward families with children.
on May 31, 2006
Thanks for your review it became important because we want to create a theatre area and I wondered about hanging the screen on the wall that will use the little hooks you described, I will think harder about getting this system.
on May 31, 2006
Thanks for your review it became important because we want to create a theatre area and I wondered about hanging the screen on the wall that will use the little hooks you described, I will think harder about getting this system.
on May 31, 2006
please call your oc rep ,,

we have never had a problem like this and i believe it is made up

the ""bob showers "" ex loser system what is the warrenty
on Jun 03, 2006
I sorry to hear about your unpleasant experience with your salesperson but you you might want to consider that the manufactures of drywall themselves say that their product (incl moisture resistent greenboard)is not recomended for high humidity areas such as a basement. I cant understand for the life of me why people even consider drywall. And don't tell me people have been doing it that way for many years. People also used lead paint and asbestos for more years than drywall has been around. Mold is a very real problem in this country and if you dont care about your health and its all about the money check you home owners policy and se how much they cover. mold remediation is very very expensive
on Jun 03, 2006
the issue with teflon and pets is very real in regards to cooking surfaces when heated gives off fumes harmful to pets. but inregards to the walls its not an issue because its not being heated to the same degree. also most of the carpets and upholstered furniture in this country is traeted with teflon
on Jun 03, 2006
less than $10 a sqft wow. Considering the average drywall job your size takes about a month with a two man team. What I'm trying to say is you are being lowballed. depending where you live the labor end alone will take up most of that $8000 not to mention material, overhead and a little thing called profit