Weren't you the one complaining about losing rights?"

Nope!

"No, I haven't seen the police report, and neither have you."

Well I've seen the one in a previous link, with handwritten information, from primary sources, signed affidavits. But you're right I'm looking at a media conspiracy.

"You've seen what someone portrayed to be the police report, just like it was portrayed over and over that they talked loudly about bin Laden."

The document indicates the conversation involved the Saddam Hussein verdict. If it was a portrayal of the police report, perhaps you'd like to post a link to your own police report, and we could compare credibility.

Listen, people take shots at Muslims which are fair all the time, in this case, in my opinion the airline got it wrong the second day. If I stepped onto a plane and acted suspicious without believing it was so, I'd be expected to deplane and expect questioning, and expect to be able to fly home after all that. I do not think that is unreasonable. These are opinions. The information I cited in my arguments was from what I believe was and is the police report, as well as the link I'd posted. If you can prove that to in not the case then I will withdraw all the arguments with those facts.

If the best you can do is say, how can you prove Abe Lincoln ever lived, just like how can you prove the Imam's even exist, or how do I know 1+1=2, well I guess I don't have an answer for you. Nor will I go on trying to find additional facts beyond those I posted.

What have I asked you to prove btw?

"Every single news show I've seen has cited them spreading out in seat they weren't assigned to. Is the police report you've seen any more substiantiated?"

The police report indicated that one of the flight attendents though the blind guy might be faking it, and also thought that he was going for a seat that wasn't his. That fact in conjunction with the fact, that one of the guys sitting with him was trying to upgrade his seat and his friend to first class got twisted into they were switching seats. Also, since they waited and waited and waited before takeoff for police to arrive to kick these guys off, one or two of them went from the front to talk to one of the guys in the back.

Suspicious sure, but the suspicious actions, as reported, in my opinion were the result of people looking for suspicious action. LOL.

Look I'm not asking you to board a plane with no prejudices, or board a plane not looking out for yourself or keeping an eye out for suspicious stuff, but geez I mean, where do we draw the line?

"Besides, "Practicing Your Religion" is a right, but not ANYWHERE you want to do it. Pagans cannot sacrafice goats in an airport.

or Catholics have a mass in a Synagogue."

Pagans sacrificing goats was not occurring in this situation. There was no sacrifice except for the Imams time, people's freedom from fear, and an airlines judgment on day 2 of the situation.

If a Muslim in the future says a quiet prayer on a plane would that be acceptable? What if he or she is observed doing that? How about if the prayer is audible? Does it then become a crime? It's not just freedom of religion but freedom of speech. The police report makes no note of anyone asking them to be quiet, which is why I am suspicious myself about just how loud their prayers actually were. Whenever you investigate anything, it's wise to look for not only the evidence which is there, but that which is conspicuously missing.

One more piece of this kind of information, is the names of the guys detained, the fact that one of them is blind, and the "note" that was torn up in the terminal, of course suspicious, this note apparently was a email confirmation of the flight, along with five email addresses, although there were six Imam's. If you recall one of them was blind and would have little use if not usability of email given it's implementation as a primarily sight based technology. That lends credibility to the TV appearance of the guy, with sunglasses, claimed blindness, and also his walking stick.

Evidently if it walks like a duck quacks like a duck and doesn't get cramps if it swims shortly after eating, it just might be a duck folks.

The flight crew found their behavior suspicious. The passengers found their behavior suspicious.

They did the right thing by removing them. I suspect the whole thing was a stunt to try to see just how far they could go.

I can't even wear my shoes through security anymore.  It doesn't take much to raise suspicions.

I broke this down right away, and my conclusions after reading the police report are pretty consistent to this day.

Probability #1
I agree, their actions were outrageous, but yet, within legality. I think from speaking with Muslims about it, that this probably was a stunt, a sort of "if you want to make me out to be a criminal, I'll just do it it to prove you right" mentality.

Probability #2
Less likely I think is that they actually got on a plane and just disregarded how everybody else would view them, and did as they felt while praying, and the prayers combined with the other "suspicious activity" became especially suspicious when you are looking directly at them for signs of anything not thought to be normal.

Possibility #3
Pretty much outside the realm of believability, at least for me, is that this was some sort of psychological operation designed more for fear, then to just piss people off. More specifically for the coverage, which I must say, probably didn't meet their expectations, because I can hardly find anything on it without digging. I can see no way in which doing this would benefit Muslim Americans as a whole, not even from the Muslim perspective.

Possibility #4
This would be as suggested, some sort of dry run, but I think the fact that they were released by the authorities, and not so much as given a fine or anything to my knowledge would discredit that. I would consider something like this an act of terror and though the "terrorists" are determined, and ruthless, they are not stupid, and to expect future terrorist actions to occur on an airplane is just so far out there, again at least for me.

I would imagine that lots of American Muslims feel differently about Islam then the rest of world, and perhaps differently about their religion then the rest of the Muslim world.

If a group of six caucasian people would have done the exact some thing and been kicked off the plane, nobody would have called it "racial profiling." It isn't racist to remove dangerous people from a plane. It is racist to say that Muslims who behave this way should be allowed to remain on the plane, while whites behaving the exact same way should be kicked off. Hmm... kicking certain people off flights because they're of a certain race (white) and not kicking other people off of flights because they're of another race (likely Arabic, Pakistani, Indonesian or Persian). It's almost like it's racial profiling.

Sorry... my mistake... I thought racial profiling was when you treated one race with more suspicion than another.

Oh, yeah... and my opinion is they just did it to sue the airline.

"Oh, yeah... and my opinion is they just did it to sue the airline."

Maybe. But that is their right also. It's for a court to throw out or decide.