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Do they really do it better? Really?
Published on April 7, 2007 By Draginol In International

Every so often some journalist somewhere feels the need to do one of those "Why the United States should be more like <country X>" articles. This year it was US News & World Report. Entitled, "What the US can learn from the rest of the world" the article implies we're in decline or, at best falling behind with the rest of the world. 

In my experience, most countries with democratically elected governments that have reasonably free markets end up with the environment that its citizens want. I would no more tell a Canadian what's best for them than I would tell a Frenchman.  One assumes that they have their reasons for the choices they've made. 

So with that in mind, I'm going to take apart Susan Headden's interesting but useless article "How they do it better".  It's interesting in that we should always be aware of what other countries are up to. Humans tend to be myopic. Articles like this tend to be a refreshing look at what humans elsewhere are trying.  But is there really much to learn from the examples Ms. Headden gives? Let's find out.

We have the biggest GDP, the finest universities, the highest ownership of color TVs, and the greatest number of Nobel Prize winners.

So how come the Danes are the happiest people in the world? Living in the dark, no less.

Define happiness. I assume she refers to the Leicester study on the subject. Denmark, incidentally has the second highest suicide rate in Europe -- far above the United States.  If Denmark is such a happy place, why are so many people trying to leave by any means necessary?

 Schoolchildren in New Zealand are cleaning our clocks in math and science. Teachers are better paid and more respected in Japan.

Ok. This is interesting. The US always scores low on these tests.  Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that our incredibly unionized public schools have no competition whereas I believe New Zealand parents can send their children to any school they choose (like much of Europe). I agree we do have something to learn from that.  And yet when school vouchers come up, US News, Newsweek and Time seem to be either silent or hostile on the idea in editorial.  Teachers are paid very well here but then again, the best teachers are paid about the same as poor teachers. Whenever you demand a system that caters to the lowest common denominator, you get what you ask for.

Our highways are choked with traffic, but we can't manage to build a train that goes more than 150 mph.

Why would we build a 150mph train? Our population density isn't anywhere near what it would take to justify such a train.  That is why our highways are choked with traffic. Because it's not practical to build a high speed train system thousands of miles apart.  Moreover, most Americans live in suburbs which is a stark contrast to Europeans and the Japanese who are very urbanized.  How exactly would the average American use a 150mph train? Where would these train stations be?  Like I said, it's about population density.  I'd love to be able to commute by train. But I wouldn't bet that most American middle class citizens would be willing to give up their 100x100 lot and their 2,500 square foot house and relocate to a densely populated urban area to justify it.

Our eating habits? Please. Just compare our average portion with a meal in Japan, and you'll understand why our adult obesity rate is 32 percent, compared with only 3.6 percent for the Japanese. The French, likewise, are slim and well fed-and they offer world-class dinner conversation to boot. Their secret: They don't want to know what you did yesterday; they want to engage you in a lively discussion of ideas.

Right...Yes, those slobbenly Americans and their knuckle dragging ways.  The gun-toting, pickup driving, McDonalds eating suburbanite isn't nearly as charming, sophisticated, and "lively" as those Europeans -- or at least the Europeans that Ms. Headden visits anyway.  I don't even know where to begin. How about this -- the typical French or Japanese household now has, at best, 3 people in it. Adult male. Adult female. And one child. Maybe. And I suspect that they do indeed, on average, come home and discuss interesting things more often than the typical American household with an adult male. Adult female and 2 to 3 children in it all jammed to the max going to soccer and dance and whatever else.  And I'm sure the obesity rate has nothing to do with the fact that our restaurants give huge portions, fast food is everywhere, and food is cheap here.

But our shortcomings are bigger than dining and discourse. Remarkably, the United States is nowhere to be found on the Economist's global index of lowest infant mortality. At the other end, our average life expectancy, at 77.9, puts us 40th in the world- after Costa Rica and Cuba.

Could it be that the United States, with a huge population of illegal immigration and very large ethnic minority population that tends to be at a significantly lower standard of living than say the average person living in Brussels might affect infant mortality and life expectancy? Tell me Ms. Headden, do you know anyone personally who has had a child die as an infant? I know I haven't. Infant mortality rates in modern countries are like the Olympics -- they're getting so close to perfect that even one in a 100,000 can affect the statistics.  So the inner city child that dies of fetal alcohol syndrome or the illegal immigrant who skips pre-natal care and tries to have the baby at home and has a complication can really affect those statistics.  The same is true of life expectancy where we have significant chunks of the population that have very low life expectancy.  But in the United States, it's not politically correct to point out that the life expectancy of African Americans is 70 years (while whites live nearly 80).  Since they're 12% of the population, the affect on our average is significant.  So what exactly can be really learned from say Belgium or France or Japan on that issue?

As for our treatment of the planet, we're down at No. 28 on the global index of environmental performance, a value based on six measurements of environmental health. Meanwhile, Denmark manages to get 20 percent of its energy from the wind. And in Singapore, tossing a candy wrapper on the sidewalk will set you back a thousand bucks.

Okay, I'm game. Let's be like Denmark, a tiny, urbanized peninsula country that gets 20% of its energy on wind.  Please, explain how you envision the United States building enough wind farms to get 20% of its energy from wind. Denmark, a country that is nearly all coastline (it's technically a peninsula but it's practically an island) has the luxury of having most of its inhabitants living on the coast and huge wind farms that literally surround the country. Would you suggest we abandon the rest of the United States and live in say Florida so that we can do the same? Even then, we'd be at a disadvantage.  How do you picture wind farms working in say Austin Texas? How much of our natural land area would you be willing to cut down or reserve for wind farms?  Remember ANWR? Liberals hate ANWR even though it involves only touching a couple hundred acres.  Would you support millions of acres being reserved for wind farms so that we too could be like Denmark? 

And as for Singapore, so the streets are clean. And if you do anything wrong, you can be caned or heavily fined. Are you seriously suggesting you'd support this in the United States?  Ever been to a major inner city in the United States? Full of litter. Let's fine them $1000 for doing it and see how that would fly.

On a grimmer index, America has more people in prison-2,135,900-than any other country in the world. And the highest rate of gun-related homicides of all industrialized nations. If we followed Europe's example of treating drug addicts rather than jailing them, would the numbers go down? It's a complex and controversial question. But Holland's experience shows that treatment of drug abuse is at least vastly cheaper than the alternative.

This gets back into that politically incorrect discussion. The elephant that is in the room. That is, if we even observe that there are statistically significant differences in prison populations and gun-related homicide rates based on ethnicity in the United States we can expect to be called racists.  We're not allowed to even talk about race here -- we're that gun shy.  Sure, the Japanese can publicly slur Koreans and the Germans will openly slur Turks.  But in the US, we aren't even allowed to quietly and meekly say "But..but...if you take Ethnic Europeans living in the United States and compare them with Europeans in Europe, the rates are basically identical.." So what really is to learn here? In Michigan, 12% of the population is African American. But 60% of the Michigan prison population is African American. In our nation's capital, it's 97%! I don't think looking at Holland is the solution.

In the following pages, we offer 30 lessons we can learn from other countries. The list is admittedly unscientific and decidedly incomplete. We're not even saying that all of these practices would work here; if Americans wanted free day care and government-funded maternity leave, after all, they'd have to pay Norway-size taxes. What follow are simply practices that intrigued us: the Germans retraining prostitutes to care for the elderly, the Brazilian buses that are so clean and efficient that even the rich people ride them, and the Japanese toilets that deodorize the room and put the seat down when you're done.

Perhaps for starters we American recognize that it isn't "free" and it's not "government funded". It's paid for by other Americans and we have a cultural attitude that people should take care of their own.  It's personal responsibility that has made the United States the success it is. The US isn't perfect by any means.  I have my own long laundry list of complaints.  In many ways, I think the United States sucks. It just happens to suck less than other countries.  I like living in a country in which the government doesn't limit my potential or my opportunities in order to support "fairness". I like living in a country that has nearly every type of environment in it.  I can be in a tropical paradise one day and on the frozen tundra the next without leaving the country (and it is this vastness and diversity that makes these statistical comparison to other country games so obnoxious).  But most of all, I like that in the United States we are still free to succeed or fail on our own terms.

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on Apr 11, 2007

I think African-Americans would get rid of the laws that let SWAT teams invade your home with military hardware for nonviolent offenses (Radley Balko covers that weekly) and some things about parole violations and bankruptcy laws that aren't written with their situation in mind.

Do you really think that if this law was eliminated that it would substantially change the prison population statistics?

on Apr 13, 2007
*refrain from entering the fray, not being an American*

There is a lot of thing I America I would love to see in Canada..
and there are others I will just never accept.

Also, I think there are many other things in Canada that would help a lot in America.

But anyway..

what about a common currency for the whole North America?
on Apr 14, 2007
what about a common currency for the whole North America?

That would help, but would the leaders go for it?
on Apr 14, 2007
What exactly is that situation that a black criminal might be in but a white criminal is not?

If I answer this you'll be getting a thirdhand description from an article I read which was probably already slanted by the reporter. It's really more about class than race, people who aren't participating in the formal economy or its legal system to begin with have trouble with requirements that wouldn't even inconvenience normal people. I shouldn't have even bothered trying to answer this, you wouldn't sympathize even with the non-vague version.

Do you really think that if this law was eliminated that it would substantially change the prison population statistics?

I didn't choose the most common example, I chose the clearest one I thought white people would sympathize with. Like the example of it being illegal for Jews to own radios. I don't know what fraction of inmates went in for that "crime," but the fact that the system could do that without opposition showed the law probably wasn't protecting them in general.
on Apr 14, 2007
Excellent article and analysis. "America does suck but it happens to suck less than most other countries". My only observation is: if it is sooooooooooooooo bad here compared to the rest of the world, WHY are so many people trying to get here illegally??.

Freedom is a powerful motivator. But despite everything supposedly bad about America: High Taxes (nope we are low compared to most other socialist democracies), Biased racism (you can always find a group to hang out with and prosper), poor medical services (hospitals give away billions in free medical services every year) unstable government (well given that the Democrats are in charge now I'll concede that point), America is still, as Reagan put it, "the shining city on the hill".

If it fails to live up to its promise surely its the people living there now who have failed the vision.
on Apr 15, 2007
That would help, but would the leaders go for it?

The question should be more "Would the Americans accept it?"

They haven't been able to accept the coin-dollar.. I don't know how you would react if you changed the whole currency altogether?

(by the way, has there been any paper-currency reform recently? (recently = last 10 years) you know.. to prevent fraud for example)
on Apr 15, 2007

I think currencies are slowly becoming irrelevant.

I rarely deal with cash now. In another 10 or 20 years, I imagine everything will be just a label. 

At that point, it's really not a governmental decision. It's a matter of what merchants choose to use on their price tags.

Even now, when I hope, merchants might use $US, Euro, or pound and it makes little difference because my credit card sorts through it.

But that's a different story.

on Apr 15, 2007
(by the way, has there been any paper-currency reform recently? (recently = last 10 years) you know.. to prevent fraud for example

Yes. Holograms and color.
on Apr 15, 2007
Are you suggesting that there is a coordinated government progrom to round up African Americans and put them into prison?

The war on (disfavored) Drugs seems to be pretty co-ordinated to me... (Says the white-, middle-class, semi-geek who doesn't like to drink much because he doesn't like the feeling of being drunk and has never touched any non-prescription mind-altering substance other than alcohol).
on Apr 15, 2007
Duplicate post removed - might be abug; I'm reasonably sure I only hit submit once
on Apr 15, 2007
I think currencies are slowly becoming irrelevant.
I rarely deal with cash now. In another 10 or 20 years, I imagine everything will be just a label.

Yhea.. but will there still be multiple labels, or should the world agree on a single one? (like BCs? )

And what about poor countries - they still have to use currency until get catch up with us
on Apr 16, 2007
Yhea.. but will there still be multiple labels, or should the world agree on a single one? (like BCs

Very doubtful. Sort of like assimilating the metric system? You saw how well that went over in the US.
on Apr 16, 2007
The war on (disfavored) Drugs seems to be pretty co-ordinated to me...

I had already brought up the Holocaust by that point, so that gives "co-ordinated" a whole different sense. The war on drugs isn't co-ordinated intentionally to round up African-Americans. It's just that a co-ordinated effort to round up people selling drugs on the street gets a lot more people who a) can't afford their own place where they can sell drugs at and are part of a different kind of economy where selling drugs might just be another part-time job. Example:

Take Oceana, a mother of six whose last six months of employment are a picture of elbow-greased, bootstrapping entrepreneurialism. “I picked up garbage for a guy who worked in the city and who was fucking some lady in the van and needed some time off one day,” she tells Venkatesh. “I bought some kids some beer. I always have someone who can’t leave work but who needs a bag [of pot or cocaine]. The lady at the library lets me put the books on the shelves. That minister likes me to walk on his back, or sometimes do a little more, but I’m not talking about that. Unless you paying.” Also on Oceana’s résumé: washing cars, painting houses, and minding a local store while a hooker gives the proprietor a blow job. She summarizes, “I do just about anything and everything, baby.”

Within the fluid economy of Maquis Park, Oceana’s flexibility is extreme but not aberrant. Her neighbors are unlicensed hairstylists, ad hoc caterers, tailors, psychics, and accountants, and typically ply more than one trade at a time. They sell clothes, pirated movies, and used kitchen supplies they call “ghettoware.” Others are gypsy cab drivers, janitors, and mechanics. Some make a quick buck taking over abandoned buildings and offering the space for shelter; others make money with promises to keep police patrols away from the same space. Link

When middle class white people pass laws to jail drug dealers, they are looking at it from the perspective of people who are used to having full-time jobs and imagine drug dealers as people whose full-time job is pushing. If people like Oceana made the laws, I think they'd be better targeted to take out the people who truly pose a threat to the community with violence and selling to kids, and not so much putting people away for "possession." The line between "citizen" and "criminal" is a bright one for people like me who vote, not so fuzzy as it is when you're on the fringes of the system.
on Apr 17, 2007
For anybody who's on my side in this thread, this Link is an article by Heather MacDonald that might help you understand Brad's side better.
on Apr 17, 2007

Incidentally, the majority of violent crime in the United States is also commited by African Americans. So again, if someone wants to argue that US laws are prejudiced for a racial group, the evidence seems pretty thin.

If someone is prepared to make the case that violence against other people shouldn't be criminalized then there's not much point discussing that with them.

Not that it matters. For reasons that are completely irrelevant to this discussion, Denmark and the United States have very different demographics which makes the argument that we have a lot to learn from Denmark with regards to criminal justice nonsensical. 

That is what gets me annoyed at these liberally-slanted articles. We have this elephant in the room that people don't want to talk about because Americans throw the word "racist" around so casually now to eliminate any sort of meaningful discussion.  So instead, we just close our eyes and pretend it isn't there.

The US has some significant issues with race and culture that need to be dealt with constructively.  And until we do, trying to argue that if we just followed the policies of lilly white Holland or whatever would solve all our cultural issues is foolish and unhelpful.

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