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Bush and his ilk have no guiding principles
Published on June 1, 2007 By Draginol In Republican

Peggy Noonan, one of my heroes, has an outstanding column in today's Wallstreet Journal about George W. Bush and how he has torn the Republican party asunder.

It has always amazed me to see Bush haters trying to paint Bush as a "typical" Republican or "typical" conservative. He is neither.

His out of control spending, his preference for loyalty over competency, his incompotent handling of Iraq, his left-of center views on federal education, immigration, and even welfare make him not a Republican or a Democrat but some sort of bizarro President.

It's as if "Bob down the street" somehow got elected President. Bob, who knows little on politics, has little interest in it, gathers about him his Sunday afternoon Football buddies to hang with him and set out policy based on their "gut".

Except I suspect Bob wouldn't be stupid enough to call the base of his support unpatriotic as Bush did yesterday.  Only in Bush's world would those who are against lawbreaking considered unpatriotic.

Check out Peggy's column below. It is well worth the read.

 


Comments (Page 1)
on Jun 01, 2007
When he ran, I did not like his education plank.  But I thought perhaps that the time down south had bred the New England liberalism out of him.  It has become apparent that it did not.  He is a chip off the old block, and that unfortunately is not a compliment.
on Jun 01, 2007
Politics as a whole, is broken, IMO.

on Jun 01, 2007

If this immigration bill passes I will vote DEMOCRAT next year just to give the GOP the swift kick in the rear it obviously needs.

Apparently, losing control of the House wasn't enough.

I'd vote for a third party or independent.

on Jun 01, 2007
It has always amazed me to see Bush haters trying to paint Bush as a "typical" Republican or "typical" conservative. He is neither.



ummm..that's not true. as someone who gets accused of hating bush here almost daily... i've repeatedly said that i don't "hate" bush at all. what has happened has been quite sad actually. and i'm not alone there. yes, there are some real "haters" out there, that is true. but everyone who opposes their policies shouldn't be smeared as a "hater." that is the rhetoric of bush and the neocons.

and i've repeatedly talked about them not being "real conservatives" at length.

I'd vote for a third party or independent.


i think the bloomberg / hagel ticket might be interesting. and unlike many independent runs these days, that one wouldn't be handicapped on the cash front.

on Jun 01, 2007
I had to laugh at the bizarro president comment - funny stuff. I think our country is ripe for a third party. I think we need more choices because politics as usual isn't cutting it.
on Jun 02, 2007
It's not just the Republicans, both major parties are pretty much fractured. Added to that fracture is the fact that neither party has either a heir apparent or cause celeb around which to rally.

The democrats had the war in Iraq, but their lack of any real move towards "bringing the troops home" with the leadership of Congress has stripped them of that issue. The republicans had Conservatism and National Defense on their side, but well, we have seen conservatism take a hit for the team, and National Defense has been exposed in the VA, Military Healthcare System and now Illegal Aliens.

The current lineup of Democrat candidates are tripping over themselves trying to play old, warn out "us vs them" gambits like class warfare and their delusion that they are still running against Prs. Bush. The current Republican candidates are trying to convince us that they are the "most" conservative, but none have really taken the torch and ran with it.

So, will their be a darkhorse in one of the parties? One who doesn't have to qualify their positions and platform? Or will the major parties simply ask us all to vote against the other party's candidate... in other words, vote for the letter after the name instead of the person behind it?
on Jun 03, 2007
Draginol,
I have to agree with you here. I am not a die-hard conservative, but I have always at least respected the Republicans for sticking to two principals that I can relate to: fiscal conservativism, and high moral standards. The current administration has completely lost the high ground on both of these issues. I often wonder whose bright idea it was to take the old conservative concept of being fiscally sound, and saying..hey why don't we just do the tax cuts we used to, and not worry about the corresponding spending cuts....Seems like Bushie has lost his way...
on Jun 04, 2007
Draginol,

why don't you run
on Jun 04, 2007

Your girl Noonan was pretty high on George back in '04.  Hell, most of you were.  Now, you're throwing him under the bus because he's "not a conservative."  Don't make me laugh, you ain't getting out of this one that easily.

George Bush is a failure because he took all the things the righties love -- money for the rich, blowing up third world countries, smacking around gays, and telling everyone they'd get a gun in ever pot -- and he screwed it up.  But not because he's a bad conservative -- nah -- he's the most Republican president you guys have ever elected.  Bush is the sum of all that conservatives believe, and living proof of what an unwavering conservative means for any group larger than your local Baptist church.

You guys can't weasel out on Bush now -- you elected him twice.  You broke the Republican party, not George Bush.  He was just your poster-boy.

Cheers.

Gore '08

on Jun 04, 2007
You guys can't weasel out on Bush now -- you elected him twice. You broke the Republican party, not George Bush. He was just your poster-boy.


good point.
on Jun 04, 2007
Gore '08


Gore Vidal? Interesting choice, Myrrander, because you couldn't POSSIBLY mean AL Gore! (LOL!)

The problem each party has is that the majority in the party believe THEIR party isn't broken. Every political party in the US (Yes, including my own beloved LP) is broken, and until their supporters recognize that fact, they're likely to remain so.
on Jun 04, 2007
Gore '08


Gore Vidal?


maybe he's just predicting a really bloody election, lol

on Jun 05, 2007
SilentPoetJune 1, 2007 14:52:35


Politics as a whole, is broken, IMO.


nice to see you Lucas. and it's not politics that are broken it's the pigs that are in POLITICS.
on Jun 05, 2007
it's the pigs that are in POLITICS.


and a lot of those pigs are there because we, the people haven't given a damn in a long time
on Jun 06, 2007
Yes Thank God they are finally broken!