The really scary thing is how the "radical" left is actually more mainstream and has a firm grip on the democrats.

You keep rolling in those bucks, Brad, and don't send a cent to me (Not that you would). I see it as an indication that the system is alive and well.

Reminded of the premise of my favorite book of all time - what would happen if the people that can actually "do" something were to suddenly up and disappear? If they found some remote place on the planet to be and formed their own little competency town where no one could find them and loot them? Answer: The rest of the world would either learn to be competent themselves or they'd fold up completely. Likely the latter. I'd actually LOVE to see that happen.

I just went out and bought GalCiv2, Gold Edition, at Circuit City, just because I think you should have more money (and I had a gift card). So, hope you see some of it!

Sadly, tey still don't stock it at OUR WalMart...I may have to look for it when I'm in Amarillo.

You actually said, in a nutshell, why I'm against welfare. I believe that people NEED to find the resources on their own, and that they can, if the government would just stop enabling them in their dependency. But then they'd have to earn their votes the HARD way.

Well, I installed it last night, but I still haven't had any time to play it. Oh well. I may never, with the kids, heh. But it's still worth it to have it in my Stardock collection.

The voters see this... "Hey, stuff for free!" and vote for that guy. Therefore, any democracy will eventually turn into a communist state, because the people with the money only have one vote.

dont know if this is closer but the have it at the franklin store in waco

Thanks for the tip, but Waco would be a major haul. If I can't get it in Amarillo, I may order it online. I'll need a few games to have FUN with the laptop I'll soon be getting (I'll be using it mainly for work, so a few R&R apps would be nice!)

I think I know who the blue fairy is.  But regardless, I would wonder how you kept up the stamina going on with them when their only recourse is to insult you and restate their opinions. 

I will hand it to the site - at least they keep it at somewhat of a civil level.  But I wil never be able to understand the disconnect these people have with reality.  If they applied what they are stating to their every day lives, they would quickly learn how foolish and stupid they are.  You dont have to make $100,000,00 a year to understand the basic economic principals that they are totally ignoring.

What kills me is that people dismiss a $55,000/year salary as being inadequate!

Ask them how much they would be willing to pay for the same work or what luxury they would do without so that someone can be paid 55,000 a year.

A few trait I have noticed among left-wing debaters:

1. They introduce skin colour into every argument.

George Bush is not just engaged in a campaign of terror against Muslims, he is engaged in a campaign of terror against "brown-skinned people". I never understand what skin colour has to do with anything, but I am becoming afraid that the left-wing debaters do.

2. They say "Nicaragua" and genuinely believe that the discussion is over and that they won because of it.

I do not even have an idea of how that would work. But I have heard that argument a lot.

3. They speak of "income" as if it was not related to "price".

I think left-wingers honestly believe that while workers create wealth, it somehow originates from the rich and can be given back to the true owners, the workers, without affecting the rest of the economy. Hence there is a disconnect between how much a left-winger would be willing to pay for a good X and how much he thinks a labourer who works for the company that produces good X should make.

4. They always find the worst possible examples for their arguments.

For example a left-winger will happily argue that the government can be trusted to watch over everything and then go to a demonstration against George Bush's "illegal" war.

5. They accuse right-wingers of being Nazis.

And the particularly funny background of this is that they always manage to do so when talking about subjects were the left is very much on the same side as the white supremacists and/or where it is very obvious that the comparison is extremely suspect. For example, a left-winger can look at Saddam Hussein, a nationalist dictator with a moustache who was known for gassing people, and George Bush, and then, without even a hint of irony, suggest that George Bush reminds him of Hitler.

6. They have their very own definitions of rich and poor.

In Germany a family of five making over 2000 euros a month in social welfare is "poor" while a family of five with one income of less than 1600 euros a month is "rich". Seriously.

7. They only fight for safe causes.

You will find left-wing demonstrators protesting absolutely anything that can be safely protested against: George Bush, Israel, the greedy rich etc. But they WILL never protest against anything where opposition is dangerous. They will tell a Jew that he must not kill "Palestinians", but they will not tell an Arab nationalist that murdering Jews is wrong. Ironically, their ideals seem to match exactly the behaviour that keeps them clear from danger.


I found that left-wingers that do not exhibit at least some of the above are as rare as anti-war demonstrators protesting a war against Israel.

*sigh* I'm really starting to think I really am a republican Though I still hold to a lot of my normal beliefs, those guys were insane. I admit 'some SOME' of what they toted made a LITTLE bit of sense, but most of it was drivel...

I admit 'some SOME' of what they toted made a LITTLE bit of sense,

Can you discuss which ones?  Just curious.

Funniest thing in that thread:

You've obviously never worked for any larger Corperation. -Bart

You've obviously never been wealthy -Brad

"Those convinced against their will are of the same opinion still" -Dale Carnegie

Andrew:

You've made some very astute observations there.

I have been trying to be polite in that thread but I've reached a conclusion about the general psychological condition of most of the people there. They're cowards.

Not cowards in the specific sense of valor in war but cowards in the sense that, like you said, they pick safe targets that require little sacrifice on their part.

I repeatedly asked the question: What specifically have you done?  If the country is going to hell in a hand basket as you say, then what are you doing about it? Either you're a coward for doing nothing or perhaps you don't really take the issue quite as seriously as you claim.

We see that whether it's global warming or Bush.  I mean, for example, if Bush is really the most evil person in the world, worse than Hitler, than how can these people sit back and do nothing but complain on a website? If I thought my government had been taken over but an evil fascist dictator, I'd be organizing armed resistance or something.  Something.  Not sitting on a forum or carrying some stupid protest sign.

Which means these people are either a) cowards or don't really believe what they're saying.