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Fahrenheit 911 pains
Published on June 29, 2004 By Draginol In Republican

This article at the Telegraph (linked below) sums up many of my views on Moore.  Moore's writings and "documentaries" can be entertaining -- if you're already in the looney left wing camp or don't keep up with this stuff on a daily basis.  To the rest of us, it's just frustrating.

In my view, Moore is little more than just some ranting left wing idealogue who has managed to get famous. There's a zillion conspriacy nuts just like him out there. It's like they've elected him king of the loonies to spread his nastiness around.

Given the success of his film, however, it's seems that he's managed to expand his base beyong the fringe and into the mainstream. What this means for Bush is unknown.  Many people I know who are on the right fear that this bodes very ill for those of us who favor the administration's foreign policy.

But I disagree. I have great faith in the average person. I don't know if Bush will win or not (I tend to think he won't for electoral college reasons but that's not related to this film). But I don't think this film will persuade fair minded people.

Moore seems to forget that millions of Americans, such as myself, expected the US to respond in Afghanistan. The whole oil pipeline bullshit is just that -- bullshit.  I don't care if there had been a magical energon cube mine in Afghanistan, after 9/11, we had better had gone in there and removed the Taliban and disrupted Al Qaeda.

Similarly, those of us who favored military action in Iraq could care less about the oil. I don't have any ties to "big oil" and yet somehow I've been in favor of the US removing Saddam since 1998. How is this possible? In Moore's slanted universe, people like me are dupes. Suckered in by greedy puppets of big oil to do their bidding.  I would, on the other hand, argue that we are merely keepers of something Moore obviously lacks -- common sense. 

Oil only comes into play in Iraq in that it was a resource that gave Saddam the capital to acquire things that could do us great harm either in the short or long term.  After 9/11, removing Saddam was a "no brainer". The whole "Bush lied" nonsense strikes me as incredibly ignorant given that everyone thought he had WMDs long before Bush came into office. 

But Moore seems to want to have it both ways. Bush is both a simpleton and a master manipulator of us dupes out in the world. The attacks of 9/11, which were planned during the Clinton years, demonstrate to clear thinking Americans that there is no foreign policy that would satisfy these maniacs. If the appeasement policies of the 90s led to 9/11, I think it's worth trying a more aggressive policy -- which is what Bush is doing. 


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on Jul 02, 2004
patrucio: There comes a time though when there is nothing left but the name. I know "Southern Democrats" that would disagree point by point with almost everything the party itself is working towards, but simply cannot vote republican because FDR "saved the country". I think if people were given just the platform of both parties at the polls with no party titles, the voting would be far different.
on Jul 02, 2004
I am not sure how you can be pro-Gay rights, pro-abortion, pro-stem cell research, pro-gun control... and still vote for Bush

this was a response to assertions that one could be all of the above and a republican. you shifted the focus to 'vote for bush' altho i dont think you were meaning to suggest that voting for bush is the republican acid test. there seem to be more than a few long-time republicans who may ultimately vote for bush albeit very unhappily.

beyond that, if barry goldwater were alive today he would be pro-choice. i dont recall him every mentioning stem cell research, but it seems more likely than not he would be in favor of it. im positive he would have been one of the first to decry bush's call for a constitutional amendment to prohibit same-sex marriages (or any of the other four or five amendments bush has pushed for in the past). gun control is a coin toss (which may sound bizarre on the surface, but a lot of very staunchly conservative law enforcement professionals are adamantly pro-gun control). taking a scalia-thomas approach to the constitutional wording (as hahahah michael moore sorta did in bowling for columbine) arms arent necessarily guns.

one area in which i think the administration has shown admirable consistency of principle (at least in iraq) is gun control. only in recent weeks has there been any wavering...i guess iraqis are no longer permitted to bear rpg launchers or smaws...but otherwise the place is nothing short of a real-world nra showcase.
on Jul 02, 2004
This really points to the divisions in the Republican party. You've got neocons versus realists, libertarians versus theoconservatives, budget balancers versus tax-cutters, etc. The only thing all Republicans have in common is disliking Democrats.
on Jul 02, 2004

BTW, I'm not pro-gun control. I believe law abiding Americans should have unfettered access to firearms. But yes, on many issues I have the same views as Democrats.

My views tend to fall on the side of keeping the government out of my face.

on Jul 03, 2004
HELIX...........wouldn't that be funny if moore were a secret republican. the way moore has been behaving, he is either a moron or he IS a secret republican. all i can say is that we republicans need as many morons like moore as we can get. moore is making Bush a bigger winner every day. i hope the dumb democrats continue to embrace the stupid fool.
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