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Published on March 13, 2008 By Draginol In Politics

I was reading a debate on global warming today and the smugness and arrogance of the human-produced global warming crowd always seems to try to try to bolster their argument by trying to make believing in global warming to be akin to believing in evolution.

To which I responded:

Kurt, there’s a lot more evidence supporting evolution than human produced global warming.

Global warming “theory” essentially argues that CO2 is a green house gas and it has been going up a lot since the industrial revolution. The recorded global average temperature has gone up since 1976. Therefore, humans are the cause. That's it. 

It’s a hypothesis at best. What makes global warming seem like a religion to us “deniers” is the venom and smugness of global warming zealots.

It comes across as a religion because of the reaction its believers have to those who “don’t believe”. Non-believers are considered heretics and insulted, patronized, and even physically assaulted at times. Sounds like the actions of a religions zealot.

A lot of us do know the facts. Have done the research. Are scientificaly oriented. And we aren’t convinced that humans are the cause. That doesn’t mean we can’t be convinced, but we don’t find the existing evidence compelling.

Worse, the typical “believer” has done little more “research” into the matter than watch Al Gore’s movie — as if that suddenly makes them an expert. And given how quickly the “believers” become smug and obnoxious on the issue tells me that their belief has more to do with emotional satisfaction — a trait of religion — than scientific merit.


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on Mar 19, 2008
This is pretty typical of the climate change zealots and their tactics. Recently NY State Wildlife Pathologist Dr. Ward Stone stated in a radio interview "The theory that man-made greenhouse gases are the primary cause of global warming is no longer contested in the scientific community. If a scientist states otherwise, you should seriously question their motives and take a close look at who is paying them to say that."

So basically they say "We're right and anyone who disagrees with us must be dishonest and have less than honorable motives."

The simple truth is that it is just a theory and there is disagreement within the scientific community whether the zealots want to believe it or not.
on Mar 20, 2008
The simple truth is that it is just a theory and there is disagreement within the scientific community whether the zealots want to believe it or not.


Not even a theory yet, it is a hypothesis and they are right it is not even contested because no one is studying it seriously.
on Mar 20, 2008

Funny how even the founding father of climatology doesn't really agree with the Eco-religious.

 

http://freedomslighthouse.blogspot.com/2007/06/founding-father-of-climatology-calls.html

on Mar 27, 2008

http://www.aconvenientfiction.com/ This shows some great flaws in the global warming groups Ideas.... M favorite is the hockey stick of warming.... what ever did happen to that medievel warm period?

Dr Guy
Those of us who are skeptics are treated like heathens or pagans who are dangerous because we speak heresy about their religion and must be dealt with as such.Pretty much the way Columbus was treated in 1492. And of course since all the scientist of the time knew that the Earth was flat - it was.

awww.... not all of us pagans believe in global warming;)

For a long time man has known that the world was round.Greeks wrote about it as far back as the 800 BC range... Columbus' true problem was that he was bad at math. He believed that the world was half the size most scientist of time did (who were fairly close).

on Mar 27, 2008
For a long time man has known that the world was round.Greeks wrote about it as far back as the 800 BC range... Columbus' true problem was that he was bad at math. He believed that the world was half the size most scientist of time did (who were fairly close).


This is true. But the dark ages saw a regression in knowledge. Which lead to the belief that the world was again flat (the Greek and Roman civilizations, did not really permeate to all of northern europe).

Given the mumbo jumbo that passes as proof and discourse on the issue of Global Warming, it would seem we are again headed for a dark age of knowledge. Where scientific method is thrown overboard in the Jihad to convert all of the "pagans" to the new religion.
on Mar 27, 2008

This is true. But the dark ages saw a regression in knowledge. Which lead to the belief that the world was again flat (the Greek and Roman civilizations, did not really permeate to all of northern europe). Given the mumbo jumbo that passes as proof and discourse on the issue of Global Warming, it would seem we are again headed for a dark age of knowledge. Where scientific method is thrown overboard in the Jihad to convert all of the "pagans" to the new religion.

from wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Columbus

Following Washington Irving's 1828 biography of Columbus, Americans commonly believed Columbus had difficulty obtaining support for his plan because Europeans thought the Earth was flat.[4] In fact, the primitive maritime navigation of the time relied on the stars and the curvature of the spherical Earth. The European knowledge of the diameter of the Earth had improved since the Renaissance which started a few decades previously, and this knowledge had spread between sailors and navigators[5]. This had been the general opinion of ancient Greek science, and continued as the second opinion (for example of Bede in The Reckoning of Time). In fact the Earth had generally been believed to be spherical since the 4th century BCE by most scholars and almost all navigators[citation needed], and Eratosthenes had measured the diameter of the Earth with good precision in the second century BC[6]. Columbus put forth (incorrect) arguments based on a significantly smaller diameter for the Earth, claiming that Asia could be easily reached by sailing west across the Atlantic. Most scholars accepted Ptolemy's correct assessment that the terrestrial landmass (for Europeans of the time, comprising Eurasia and Africa) occupied 180 degrees of the terrestrial sphere, and correctly dismissed Columbus's claim that the Earth was much smaller, and that Asia was only a few thousand nautical miles to the west of Europe. Columbus' error was put down to his lack of experience in navigation at sea[7].

Not that I disagree with what your saying, just wanting to show that Columbus was a loon. He even refused to believe he help find new land and claimed it was the eastern seaboard of Asia till he died. But you are very much correct that these religious global warming peole are throwing out old good information for new bad religious science.... like what Columbus did.

 

on Mar 27, 2008
I'm not convinced that some of this isn't a natural cyclical change, but since the vast majority of scientist believe that man-made pollution is contributing to global warming, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. I don't have any personal stake in it one way or the other.

What I do know is we need to lessen our dependency on oil, which means developing alternative fuels and technologies.
on Mar 27, 2008
Not that I disagree with what your saying, just wanting to show that Columbus was a loon.


Fortunately for us colonials, one that Queen Isabella took seriously.

Point taken.
on Mar 27, 2008

Fortunately for us colonials, one that Queen Isabella took seriously. Point taken.

Yes I am glad to be a bastard child of history!

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