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A LASIK Diary Report
Published on May 1, 2005 By Draginol In Surgery

I finally bit the bullet and had custom LASIK done to both my eyes. The procedure was performed by Dr. D.C. Fiander of the Farmington Laser Eye Center.

It was not an easy decision to have this procedure done. I had spent a great deal of time researching the pros and cons on LASIK, PRK, Custom LASIK along with other methods to improve vision. 

Since I work in front of the computer all day, my eyes are very important to me so weighing the potential side effects from such a procedure was key in my decision. For the past near 20 years, I've been wearing contacts.  And glasses for years before that. My vision was bad. Very bad.  6.5 in my right eye and 5.25 in my left. I also have some astigmatism.  For those of you who aren't familiar with these numbers it means that without glasses and contacts that am disabled.  I couldn't function without glasses or contacts because my vision was so bad that I could only make out shapes.

For years I've hesitated in having this sort of thing done on my eyes. I didn't like glasses and contacts but I just don't like the idea of people messing with my eyes. And let's face it, as annoying as those things are, they are preferable to taking a chance on permanently damaging ones vision.

So I did a lot of research.  The Usenet news groups weren't helpful because the main group seems to be populated by a handful of kooks telling horror stories that just didn't match up with anything I'd read elsewhere (and it was only a couple of people who seemed to have some agenda).  There were numerous websites that gave clinical information on it and told me of the benefits and potential pitfalls of the procedure.

But I learned the most from talking to other people who had had the procedure and all were very happy with it. But still, I was just not willing to go in and have someone do things to my eyes. I was just too squeamish.

But then this summer I was at a wedding reception on the other side of the state when I got something in my eye while there.  I was wearing contacts so this was a big deal. Taking them out meant being basically blind.  That was my turning point. I travel a great deal and I'd reached a point where I simply didn't want to mess around with contacts and glasses knowing that if something unforseen happened that I could be left totally helpless. Whether it be a business trip or vacation or whatever, the idea that I could be left essentially disabled due to a lost contact or broken glasses became unacceptable. The logistics train of having to bring extra everything "just in case" exceeded my tolerance threshold.

So I made an appointment at Dr. Fiander's. He was someone that some friends had recommended and went for an evaluation. There are two types of LASIK available these days. The regular LASIK and Custom LASIK which uses Wavefront technology to have the changes be more customized to your eyes.

The Custom LASIK costs more and is somewhat more invasive, has a slightly longer recovery time.  But it has a higher statistical likelihood of giving good results.

My vision with glasses and contacts wasn't particularly good. In my case, I saw 20/40 with glasses and 20/60 with contacts.  So anything that equaled that or bettered it was an improvement.

The first step was the consultation.  I did that about a month ago. In that, they do a great deal of measurements on ones eye. It was like an optometrist appointment but much more intense. In hindsight, I wish I had asked more questions and received more information from this.  For instance, most LASIK centers offer free enhancements for up to a year.  I don't know if this is covered or not (and hopefully it won't be relevant to me either way).  The price range was on the high side compared to other places I went to but results were my overriding concern. Still, I would expect to be "taken care of" in the event that I do need further enhancements later on.

I also would have liked to find out things like my Corneal thickness, corneal steepness, pupil's in dim light,, tear break up, and other pupil measurements.  Essentially, for helping my research for myself after the consultation it would have been nice to be given a copy of the results so that I could assure myself that I was a good candidate for this procedure.  I am confident of Dr. Flander's view on this but it would have been handy to have this information for my own peace of mind.  I'll probably mention this to him on my next appointment as a suggestion.

Another suggestion I would have would have been to receive a print out on all the equipment. There are several different types of lasers and several different wavefront systems available. I recall hearing that they use the Excimer laser with LadarWave which would make it Alcon's "LADARVision CustomCornea". My right eye is at around 6.5 to 7 so it was at the very edge of what this system can correct (according to the FDA).  But I could be wrong on this (hence why it would have been handy to receive a bit more data on this).  Because it could also be the Technolas 217 Excimer laser with add-ons that supposedly give better results. I will ask more on this in follow-up exams.

So about a month after the consultation (October 22) I went in the Custom LASIK.

It took about 2 hours from the time I went in. Most of that time is in preparation.  They take close up topical pictures of your eye. This was not pleasant because with custom LASIK they have to take a picture of the entire eye ball which involves having a nurse holding your eye lids open just right (which took awhile to get right). 

Then they dilate your eyes. Once your eyes are dilated, they come in and put some numbing drops and use a special pen to draw dots on your eyes (very weird stuff).  A few minutes after that they took me in and had me lay down on this table where you rest your head under this machine.  It seems to be totally computerized -- complete with computerized voice telling you what % of the procedure is complete.

They started with my right eye and I won't lie, I experienced quite a bit of discomfort. About the same level as getting a shot for getting a cavity filled (not excruciating but not comfortable).  You hear the computer say "acquired" and then apparently a little blade comes and slices a very thin flap of your eye surface that is pealed back for the laser machine to do its thing.  For the next minute and a half, the laser does its thing while you stare at a red blinking light.  I didn't really feel pain but the longer it did its thing the more heat I could feel in my right eye. I did feel a distinct burning sensation when the right eye was being worked on.

A minute later they did the same to my left eye which was easier for some reason.  When they were done they put some anti-biotic drops in my eyes, some steroid compound drops and gave me some drugs to make me go to sleep and sent me home (my wife drove me home).

When I went home, I went to bad and slept for about 10 hours.  I got up the next day and I can instantly see the massive improvement.  It's not yet nearly as good as glasses or contacts but that is to be expected they say as my eye has to heal. Mostly it has to do with fluid in my eye and such that should go away over the coming weeks.

So am I glad I did this? The jury is out. It depends on how recovery goes. I expect in the next couple of days I'll have a pretty good idea. There's no doubt in my mind that my vision is far better than it was. But as the literature said, for the first 72 hours after the procedure I can expect halos and other light refraction issues which I am experiencing.  It is also hard to read close up things right now which I am told is normal and will work itself out in the next 72 hours.

Day 2: The glare has gotten considerably better. So I can read pretty well at this point.  My first concern that's come up though is that my right eye's vision is significantly less defined than my left.  I don't know if this is something I can expect to change or not.

Basically my right eye's vision is slightly garbled.  Imagine the letter S where a second letter S is superimposed on top of the first S but just a few milimeters above the lower S so that you have an almost double letter S going.   The left eye is completely sharp.

I've not found very good resources on the net yet to find out whether this is normal or not. After all, it's only been 48 hours. I won't worry too much for another week or so. But right now, while my left eye is basically perfect, my right isn't so great. Reading text and such, distance or near, is very indistinct.

Day 3: Halos and glare decrease. My eyes are fairly comfortable at this point. I'm quite pleased with my left eye but my right eye isn't quite as good. It seems to have a moderate case of monocular diplopia. I am hopeful that over the coming weeks as it heals that this will clear up.  I'm currently seeing about 20/30 in my left eye and 20/50 in my right eye. This is still better than contacts and once the "glow" effects from light and such dissipate over the coming weeks I expect to be quite happy. Though I am hopeful that my right eye will improve as it heals (I am left eye dominate fortunately).

Week 1: Still have some halos. The world is still vaguely like looking at the Sky Captain and the World of tomorrow. Left eye feels good. Right eye still feels a little tender. Vision in left eye is about 20/25. Vision in right eye has improved to probably 20/45 at this point. It's still noticeably less clear than my left eye. I'm not sure if that's due to it being less fully healed or what. Eyes do get fatigued quite easily. But overall, I'm still pretty happy about things. Not having to wear contacts or glasses is very nice. I expect the halos and overall glowy effect of everything to subside (basically with every light source big or small giving a glow effect it does make the world look a bit odd).

I'm having to put various drops into my eyes. Anti-biotics and steroid drops 4 times per day and about the same # of times for "refresher" (wettening) drops. The left eye needs it a lot less than my right eye.  I don't get star bursts which was one side effect I read others having on the net. So I'm happy about that.

Will keep reporting.

Week 3:  Night vision is still problematic because light sources give of a large halo (glow around the light source). My vision is about 20/30 overall at this point.  But it's 20/50 in my right eye. Overall, i don't see as well as I did with my glasses but I see better than I did with my contacts.

Eyes do get dry quite a bit but it's getting better.  There is still a significant haze in my vision largely due to the reflection of light off of surfaces.  I have not found that to have improved yet. 

Overall, I'm pleased with the results but I am thinking I may need them to tweak it.

2 Months:
I've become more pleased with the results over time.  I see about 20/20 out of my left and 20/25 out of my right. Overall I see 20/20 at this point.

One of the things that I've been told is that CUSTOM LASIK, as opposed to regular LASIK does have a longer recovery time. I wish this had been stressed to me at the time as I wouldn't have been as concerned with the results early on. Most of the articles I've read on-line deal with plain old LASIK.

I still experience dry eyes, something I didn't before. But it seems to get better by the day.  I am still getting a significant halo affect but that too is improving over time.  I think I'll have a better idea in another month or so.  Overall, I'm quite pleased with the results at this point.

6 Months later:
Very pleased with the results.  The halos are gone or at least so much subdued that I can't notice it.  My eyes do get dry sometimes so I carry some re-wetting drops with me. But it's pretty minor. 

We recently went on a trip to Disney and it was wonderful because I didn't have to lug around contact stuff or glasses (or both). And I can definitely see better than I did with glasses/contacts so I could definitely appreciate the difference.


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on Oct 22, 2004
Brad, I had it done this past summer, and all I can say is "Why the hell did I wait!!!!". I had mine done at lasik Plus, which is the only national chain in my area, but I visited a half dozen places for the free evaluation. I had almost no discomfort during the procedure and only mild discomfort for a few hours afterwards (that is why they suggest you go to sleep).

But walking out of there (I was in and out in less than 1 hour), I could see the difference! And now, 3 months later, my eyes are still getting better! I have 20/15 in my left eye and 20/20 in my right. I never could wear contacts comfortably, so this is just fantastic!

One side effect I have had is that I still 'push' my glasses (that no longer exist!) up my nose on occassion! But honestly, I was like you. Scared, but I did a lot of research and saw that while none would guarantee anything, most boasted 95-99% sucess of getting at least 20/40 (which is the top end of being able to drive without corrective lenses in this state). They afar exceeded my best expectations.

I will say that after going for the evals (usually taking 2-3 hours), and all the reading I did, plus all the stuff they told me, the only thing that came as unexpected was the smell! Worse than burning hair! But as they only 'burned' each eye for about 15-20 seconds, it was very tolerable.

The prices in this area ranged from $3000-$5000, so it is not cheap. But I took out an MSA, so I am actually paying for it over the next year, and that is pre-tax! (at my tax rate, that means Uncle Sam and AUnt Ginny are paying about 45% of it!).

Anyone even thinking about it, I would strongly recommend it! IN a few days, Brad will be singing the praises as well I would bet! Oh, and a foot note. I was -6 as well, with a very bad astigmatism! SO yes, I was legally blind without glasses as well. I am very glad I can say "was" now!
on Oct 22, 2004
Thanks for sharing your experiences Dr.guy and Brad.

I have been considering this for quite a while. I am not blind. My vision is better than 20/40 but I have a serious astigmatism that requires that I wear glasses to keep from getting terrible headaches. I would like to be able to go to the beach, swim in the pool, etc... witout having to take time to wear my glasses every few minutes to prevent the headaches.....

Please keep us updated Brad....
on Oct 22, 2004
Yea I have a feeling I will be regretting not doing this sooner. I'm 33 now and in another decade I will probably hvae to wear bifocals or something! Blech.
on Oct 22, 2004
I am 48, and I do need reading glasses (they told me that I would - but that is due to my focusing muscle not focusing after agge 40), but not all the time. The first couple of weeks after the surgery, I need reading glasses just to see the computer screen, but now it is only for really tiny print! SO I rarely wear them any more. And I was wearing bi-focals, so I know the blech part all too well!

Glad you got smart earlier than I did!

And TasT, go for the free eval. The price is right and they will tell you then if you qualify. And give you a lot better info than on usenet! (I actually just surfed the web and found some great sites that told all about it and the expected results. I did not think of Usenet, but I can see I am glad i am glad I did not waste my time.)
on Oct 22, 2004
My husband had PRK eye surgery done last spring before he deployed, and he's very happy with the results. It took a few weeks afterward for him to have consistent vision, but now his eyesight is better than perfect (don't remember his exact stats). It's particularly important in the field because the soldiers can't wear contacts because of the dusty, less than sanitary environment, and glasses are a hassle, too because the soldiers have to try to quickly grab their glasses in the darkness when they are mortared in the night. His only complaint now is that his eyes are very light sensitive and extremely dry.

Hope your recovery is quick and painless, draginol.
on Oct 22, 2004
Sadly LASKIK won't fix my vision problems. I have lazy-eye and I don't think there's anything that can be done short of rather invasive and expensive surgery. I wish I could fix my vision problems this easily.
on Oct 22, 2004
There are a couple things keeping me from doing this (besides the money).

One thing is that my corrected vision (with contacts) is 20/10, and I don't think I'd be happy with Lasik that would very likely leave me with poorer vision than that. Dr. Guy's 20/15 (in one eye) is the best result I've heard of but it's been a while since I researched the latest advances in the procedure.

The other thing is that the last I heard, within a few years after the procedure you'll need to start wearing glasses or contacts again. I don't know whether it's worth several thousand dollars for what is really a temporary improvement and I wouldn't know how long to expect it to last.

Any comments about either of these concerns? I guess I need to do some new research since Draginol has prompted me to consider Lasik again.
on Oct 22, 2004
I had it done about 5 years ago, one eye done for near vision/reading and one for distant vision, what they call monovision. Can't tell you how glad I am I had it done. It's not perfect since there's still a little astigmatism in the distance eye, even after a touch up procedure a year after the first, and my eyes are more sun-sensitive than before so I'm always in sunglasses outdoors, but would do it again in a heartbeat.

Hope yours turns out great, too, Brad. Sure it will - the techniques are much better than they were even 5 years ago.

Cheers,
Daiwa
on Oct 22, 2004
The other thing is that the last I heard, within a few years after the procedure you'll need to start wearing glasses or contacts again.


My husband was told his vision would gradually decrease to the point where he needed glasses again in twenty years, I believe.
on Oct 22, 2004
The only part that freaks me out is being conscious while they do it... the idea of anything touching my eye really makes me shudder, so I am probably going to be wearing glasses for the rest of my life. Of course, that's just my hangup of course.

Hope it works out really well for you Brad
on Oct 22, 2004
Dr. Guy's 20/15 (in one eye) is the best result I've heard of but it's been a while since I researched the latest advances in the procedure.


That is pretty much what they told me would be the best. That is because it is actually so precise. So better than 20/20 is a little over corrected, but nothing to worry about. But computers and lasers usually are very exact, hence the limitation. (If you could call it that !)

The other thing is that the last I heard, within a few years after the procedure you'll need to start wearing glasses or contacts again. I don't know whether it's worth several thousand dollars for what is really a temporary improvement and I wouldn't know how long to expect it to last.


That is due to presbyopia, and Lasik cannot correct for that. Basically, as you get older, the muscle that allows focusing on things up close looses strength, and hence most people need reading glasses. Since I waited so long, I need them now. But only for real fine print (I am not wearing them now and my screen is a 18" flat scren at 1280x1064). So even if you dont get it done, you will probably need bifocal contacts after age 45.

The only part that freaks me out is being conscious while they do it... the idea of anything touching my eye really makes me shudder, so I am probably going to be wearing glasses for the rest of my life. Of course, that's just my hangup of course.


Same here History! The doctored called me a squencher! And it took a lot of will power to try to not squench my eyes! But they do prop them open and deaden them. If that is the only thing that is holding you back, try a free evaluation! One of the places actually put the device in my eyes to show me how it would feel. Not great either, but it was worth it!
on Oct 22, 2004

The other thing is that the last I heard, within a few years after the procedure you'll need to start wearing glasses or contacts again. I don't know whether it's worth several thousand dollars for what is really a temporary improvement and I wouldn't know how long to expect it to last.

I had mine done 4 years ago and I still have 20/15 in both eyes.  The best I ever got with contacts (I wore gas permeable due to astigmatisms in both eyes that were bad enough that even toric soft lenses didn't correct well) was 20/20 in my left eye and something worse in the other that I can't remember.

So, 20/15 has been great.  Being able to just get out of bed and see is worth the price. 

on Oct 22, 2004
wait so you actually see the blade come at your eye and slice the section off? Up until that point, I was completely fine with the procedure. That would take some serious convincing, for me at least.
on Oct 22, 2004
wait so you actually see the blade come at your eye and slice the section off? Up until that point, I was completely fine with the procedure. That would take some serious convincing, for me at least.


Philomedy, no. You actually go blind for a few seconds when that happens! trust me, you do not see it, but your eye gets (or vision I should say) real fuzzy after that until they 're-flap' you! !

Karma, One of my co-workers had PRK (a much more painful operation) about 5 years ago, and he was the deciding factor in me going ahead with it. While it really has only been around for 13 years now, there is no evidence of recidivism. Probably because it is not some voodoo, but an actual reshaping of the cornea!

Brad, you sure came up with a great one! I hope all these tetimonials make you feel a lot better about the whole process! You will need to use the drops for awhile (liquid tears), but I am down to 2-3 times a week now, and it has only been 3 months! Cant beat that!

Anyone want some old glasses?
on Oct 22, 2004
I, too, am thinking about getting my eyes fixed soon. This article was very interesting to me and I would love to hear about your progress in future articles.
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