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Who will win?
Published on November 2, 2004 By Draginol In Politics

Everyone hopes that their game will win. But right now, no one knows. Exit polls won't be useful in any remotely close states until the end of the day (beware of anyone trying to toss around any exit polls in battle ground states until the end of the day - whether they be for Bush or Kerry).

We'll keep this blog running throughout the day and see how things go.

5pm EST: Only a couple hours left until the polls close in a few states. At that point, we'll be able to start looking and seeing the results. Even in states that are solid Bush or Kerry, we can compare the results with the various polls on-line to see how close they are. If a solid Bush state leans Kerry or a solid Kerry state leans Bush, we may get an early idea of what is going to be the result.

8pm EST: Projected final result: Kerry victory by 3% (51% to 48%) nationally (from looking at a ton of exit polls). Let's see how close they are.

9pm EST: Not a land slide that's for sure.  Bush has taken Bush states and Kerry has taken Kerry states. Florida and Ohio are still unknown. Feeling a little bit better about Bush as it appears exit polling may not be quite as on as originally expected and absentee ballots going more heavily in favor of Bush. Stay tuned...

10pm EST: Looking at the various states ACTUAL vote the news for Bush is pretty good. I'm not going to talk about states that only have partial returns in (like Florida). Let's go with a state that has 100% in: Kentucky

2000: Bush:57% Gore: 41%
2004: Bush: 60% Kerry: 40%

So in Kentucky, a Bush state, he gained over 2000. If nationally Bush bumped himself up by this amount then that's good.  The same is true in Virginia.  From a statistical analysis point of view this is good news for Bush. But still way too early.

I remember back in 2000 when they predicted Florida for Gore how mad I was because they had something like 60% of vote in and Bush had a 200,000 vote lead. Same is happening this time. So don't get too excited that Bush has a lead in Florida early on because it'll tighten up.

11pm EST: At some point they're going to have to call Florida for Bush at this rate. Which will be the first error in The Political Machine projection. It's got 93% in and Bush has a 5 point lead. Barring a miracle, it's going to be hard for Kery to come back.

Bush already has 400,000 more votes in 2004 than he got total in 2000 in Florida.

Midnight: Looks like Florida is going for Bush. Ohio is very close.  So my personal prediction is wrong (yay!).

But the official PoliticalMachine.com prediction is still alive:

https://www.politicalmachine.com/forums.asp?cmd=ShowComments&MID=122&CMID=122&AID=31475

Hoping it's wrong too!

12:15am: Ohio Ohio Ohio. It's all up to Ohio. If Bush gets Ohio, it's over. It's 51% to 49%. It's very close. I'm looking at it county by county and there's only one really big Democratic county left there and Kerry will pick up a net 40,000 vote advantage once that gets in. But that will still leave Bush with a 75,000 vote advantage and there's other Republican votes coming in.

And Absentee ballots tend to favor Republicans traditionally. So if Kerry can't get it under 40,000 soon, it's all over.

12:40am: For those who wanted to see what PoliticalMachine.com had predicted back on October 15th for the race:


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on Nov 02, 2004

Whoa!  Time warp!  I got this 5 minutes to 5pm!  And the 5pm update is already here!

Beam me up Scotty!

on Nov 02, 2004
Oh the waiting before the storm is the worst part!!

...Nevermind...the storm IS WORST!!

WHOOSH Plinko!!
on Nov 02, 2004
(beware of anyone trying to toss around any exit polls in battle ground states until the end of the day - whether they be for Bush or Kerry).


I hope you are right. I've seen some posted on msn already.
on Nov 02, 2004
It was fun debateing you all for the last month or so. I hope this fine little community doesn't desolve after the votes are counted.
on Nov 02, 2004
It was fun debateing you all for the last month or so. I hope this fine little community doesn't desolve after the votes are counted.


It HAS been fun being a part of the JU community during this election. I feel like the posters here have made me more informed, and they've certainly made me laugh a time or two. I've even changed my mind on some issues -- raising the minimum wage and being anti-Halliburton for two major ones. I don't think there's any way JU will "dissolve" after the votes are in, no matter who wins. The blogosphere has proven to be a vital part of the various media, and that can only be good.

Good luck to you all!

Mikey
on Nov 02, 2004
Heh, I hope it's a tie and we keep at this for another year. It is very possible Cheney could end up as President.
on Nov 02, 2004


I like Cheney more than Bush (and certainly more than Edwards). Might not be too bad.
on Nov 02, 2004
I hope certain left will be president, but I also hope there won't be flying crap this election.

Any good site to show current results of the votes?
on Nov 02, 2004
All the jousting here at JU has indeed been enjoyable & educational these past couple of months. Thanks to all who have made it so, even blogic.

The issues raised here won't go away as of tonight. Hopefully, all will stay engaged.

Not a new joke, but: I really like Cheney, but I'm afraid something might happen to him & Bush would become President.

Cheers,
Daiwa
on Nov 02, 2004
The issues raised here won't go away as of tonight. Hopefully, all will stay engaged.


Oh...merciful God...please...no...
on Nov 02, 2004
It's been real....although I feel like the only Kerry Supporter on the site...
on Nov 02, 2004
nah alison, you've got company!
on Nov 02, 2004
It's been real....although I feel like the only Kerry Supporter on the site...


Have you seen this: Link

Plinko!!
on Nov 02, 2004
I hope that Bush wins this race for the sake of our national security.
on Nov 02, 2004
I hope that Kerry does for the sake of international sanity.
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