that is exactly my POINT. I VOTED for sound economic policy, but in the lack of it I do not volunteer to shoulder the stupidy...

This is like when hawaii passed their "free" children healthcare. Everyone got on it, even people who "could affort healthcare for their children" canceled their plans and got on the government plan, which collapsed.

Its called communism, it doesn't work, and there is no "glory" or "good" in being the one working sucker in a communistic society.

Good =! stupid

PS. Although to be honest, for the longest time I WAS stupidly good. No more, I am sick of sacrificing. I will vote, I will speak, but if plans go into effect that penalize productivity than I would choose to be unproductive.

PPS. I am paying 150$ a month for medical insurance, the day we have the new taxpayer subsidized insurence I will cancel mine and get on the "free stuff" bandwagon.

I was looking forward to comments from our fellow liberal, get their views on this issue. I know why conservative mention it, any other points of view out there?

If you voted for BO then you voted for what your getting. Even mccain i dont think would have much better.

You dont vote for the lesser of the 2 evils. No one makes you do so and that is why there is write in. Even if your guy does not have a chance it may start opening eyes to others and get the ball rolling. Sadly the guy in Venizuala would win an election in the states now because the minds of the US populus has been taking hold of the mold of the socailistic thinking

Ones worth defending anyways.

I voted for mccain. I disagreed with him on social policy, but at least he proposed sound economic policy, a spending freeze, severe spending cuts, eliminating pork, and reducing giveouts.

For all we know he is full of it, and would have done exactly what BO is doing. But he at least claimed sound policy while BO promised wealth redistribution, reparations, and entitlement.

If that is what american society wants to be like, if that is their "change", then fine. But don't come to me, who voted against such "change" and say "well, why aren't you working hard to support the hungry multitudes who voted to penalize working"

Google for example, actively opposes the current copyright law, and proclaims exactly how it is hurting society to have it abused... but they are also abusing the hell out of it, because there is no sense in them volunteering to suffering... That might not fit with ideals of "good" and "evil" you got from watching TV. But it is good in the REAL WORLD. And evil in the real world is cases where companies activly campaign to make the law more corrupt. like the RIAA.

O man dont get me started on the RIAA man lol

See what I fear about mccain is that he would do alot of what GWB did in his second term. I hate gov interfearance along with bailing out huge companies. there has been so much fail in gov lately its disgusting. Its to bad most amreicans refuse to make a living and such.

well, yes... although the bush bailout was opposed by a supermajority of rebulican congressmen and voted for by a supermajority of democrat congressmen...

For example in the senate only 20% of republican sentators voted for it...

But yes, mccain did seem to be the bitch of "intelectual property owners"... Its just that I would take tigher pro DRM laws over the obama alternative. When I said I disagreed with him about social policy I was including the internet as social policy.

I don't think McCain would have faired much better on the economy. IMO the stimulus would have still gone through, but would have been smaller and had more tax cuts (definitely more bi-partisan) and the left would now be calling it more of the same as the Bush administration. I believe he would have been constantly in push-pull relationship with congress.

I supported him mostly for his experience and the handling of terrorists and the current wars. Perhaps with the current congress we have, the best thing that could have happened was for him to lose. Now the new emperor is fully exposed (as well as congress) it's all on him, they have no room to hide. As in chess, sometimes you must sacrifice a piece to win the game.

mccain did promise a spending freeze, the stimulus isn't so much a stimulus as simply a bunch of money for a bunch of government agencies to do whatever they want with.

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