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Published on January 2, 2010 By Draginol In Politics

I live near Detroit. This is where good intentions leads to.


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on Jan 04, 2010

Um the first person to relate party to racism was in fact Chuck in reply #10.

I related party to racism first but you did not waste any time to claim it was the Republicans who were the racist. But here is my curiosity. Before these "Black" people caused this "white flight" issue to happen, please tell me were there more Black people or White people in Detroit when Democrats were voted in the 1960s? Because the more I think about it the more I wonder if this happened during the 60s and if the population was mostly White and they decided to leave due to the Black polulation growing and Democrat were in the Gov't, wouldn't that make them mostly White Democrats?

So far all my research shows that Detroit was mostly White during the 60s and 70s but eventually became even or less after that. Seems to me that for at least 15 years Democrats were voted in by a population either mostly White or of a large percentage. Of course I could be wrong.

on Jan 04, 2010

The irony of his ignorance is that just a few short years after his claim of republicans in Michigan being racists, they passed the civil Rights act over the objection of democrats.

What blows me away is how he says it. As if he was fully involved, immersed in all this Black/White racism, as if he was there to see how every person who left, left because they were racist. How he somehow new that most of those White people who left during this White Flight were Republicans. I mean talk about a guy who knows all, sees all.

on Jan 04, 2010

What blows me away is how he says it. As if he was fully involved, immersed in all this Black/White racism, as if he was there to see how every person who left, left because they were racist.

Makes you wonder why he left then too.

on Jan 04, 2010

 You realize he's probably out there now, shaking his head at how crazy the people in this thread are. 

on Jan 04, 2010

You realize he's probably out there now, shaking his head at how crazy the people in this thread are.

He is probably doing a lot of childish things.  If Lucas had not already re-incarnated himself, I would swear his was now Mumblefratz.

on Jan 04, 2010

Bias or not the questions still remain. 

on Jan 04, 2010

Bias or not the questions still remain.

Where's the beef?

on Jan 04, 2010

Let's keep the personal attacks down here please. If you disagree with Mumble, attack the message, not the messenger.

 

on Jan 04, 2010

Where's the beef?

It's what's for dinner!

 

on Jan 04, 2010

Regarding White Flight:

Saying White Flight is what did Detroit in is akin to saying that a person died because their heart stopped.

It might be a generation thing but my generation and younger don't tend to have the fixation on skin pigment that the older generations seem to.

What happened in Detroit doesn't seem very mysterious or complicated.  The city culture came to reward unproductive people by punishing productive people. Productive people left. Unproductive people tend to be more likely to commit crimes and productive people tend to have a low tolerance for crime.

There's a reason why most parents in the United States vote Republican (look up the exit polls if you doubt this). Anyone who has raised a child knows the importance of "tough love".  It's usually people who have never had to raise a child who have all kinds of ridiculous ideas on raising children.

on Jan 05, 2010

It's sad what has happened to Detroit. I'm glad I got the hell out of Michigan and moved back to my wife's home-state of Tennessee.

 

Marv

 

on Jan 05, 2010

While the video does come off as blatantly byist, I do agree with some of it's points. Mainly that the UAW fucked the American auto industry and is a major reason for the fall of Detroit. But to blame it entirely on democrat mayors is over the top. Chicago has had a democratic mayor since 1931, longer then Detroit, without becoming a doughnut city.

Detroit was completely reliant on the auto industry, and when it started to decline the city took a dive. Social programs and the type didn't help any, but it's far from the sole reason for the city's demise.

on Jan 05, 2010

Draginol never tires of orienting unions to entitlements and therefore all of whom are lazy, spoiled bastards. God forbid that anyone should want better healthcare and wages. 

on Jan 05, 2010

While the video does come off as blatantly byist, I do agree with some of it's points. Mainly that the UAW fucked the American auto industry and is a major reason for the fall of Detroit. But to blame it entirely on democrat mayors is over the top. Chicago has had a democratic mayor since 1931, longer then Detroit, without becoming a doughnut city.

Detroit was completely reliant on the auto industry, and when it started to decline the city took a dive. Social programs and the type didn't help any, but it's far from the sole reason for the city's demise.

While I agree with your points, I also have to wonder how the UAW gained so much power to the point where they really control the auto industry at this point.  The UAW funds more towards Democrats than to Republicans (Alen Specter was the only Republican to receive UAW funds but he has a D behind his name now).  You are right that the city of Detroit's heartbeat was and is in the auto industry.  The Democrat run state allowed for the Union to become the leech on the heartbeat.  Now they have put the auto industry up on life support trying to keep it alive because their own lively hood depends so much upon it.  The UAW in my opinion has basically done this to their own demise.  Don't get me wrong I'm not against Unions only against Unions that have served their purpose and continue to advance their cause beyond their original purpose. 

While the Mayor, state congress, national congress etc aren't directly responsible for this issue they certainly don't have clean hands.  They took the money and return the favor by giving the Union more and more power slowly draining the their own lifeline.  If the Auto Industry dies the death it needs to the UAW goes away.  Unlike the leech that can just go to another victim they will die with it.  This in simple terms DOES explain what happened to Detroit.

on Jan 05, 2010

Draginol never tires of orienting unions to entitlements and therefore all of whom are lazy, spoiled bastards. God forbid that anyone should want better healthcare and wages.

I'm all for that Stevendedalus, but one must also recognize there is a fine line when the Union has more control over the company than really the execs who are hired to run the company.  The UAW has served it's purpose and needs to relinquish some of it's power and leeching off the dying company.  My Uncle (who works for Chrysler) complained to me about being sent home and told to take a week off even though he was still getting 2/3 of his salary while being off.  In most industries you go home with a severence paycheck (if you are lucky) and he essentially gets put on a type of leave where he still makes most of his salary.  He is being paid by the company to not work!!  Don't tell me these people are hurting like the rest of the working class.  I have many friends who is only getting by on odds and ends type of jobs just to make it each month and others who aren't because they've been laid off.  Many have moved back in with their parents (their whole family of 7 in one case).  In the case of the UAW I have to agree with Draginol about the union.  They've become spoiled fat leeches.  Unions can be just as greedy as them evil corporations but because they contribute to the DNC you won't hear that from them will ya?

 

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