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Published on February 8, 2012 By Draginol In Personal Computing

Here’s a growing problem: College graduates who have never had a job of any kind.

I get a lot of these resumes on my desk now. 4-5 years in college, living at home, never worked. No mall job. No McDonalds. No summer landscaping. Nothing.

I used to not pay that close attention to that but I do now.  I have to because kids who have never had a job have no idea what’s expected at a job. Basic things like getting up every day and being at work at a consistent time. 5 days a week.

If you’re a parent and you’re not making your kid work so that they can “focus on their grades” you’re doing them a disservice. I won’t interview anyone anymore that has never had a job. I don’t care what their GPA was.


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on Feb 11, 2012

tetleytea
Holy smokes.  Did you check to see if you had a case for wrongful termination?   If bringing a gun to work is illegal in your state, you were whistleblowing.   Next time you turn someone in like that make you sure have documentation of your whistleblowing. 

They waited 30 days, called it a work force reduction, and threw a six month severance package at me along with a waiver not to sue. The only reason I went along with it was because my wife was the regional administrator there at the time and we couldn't afford to have both of us out of work. The guy was an ass. I even looked at him  and reminded him that as safety coordinator I had to blow the whistle, to which he laughed. I went as far as to say if had just been me and him it might have been different but he pulled it out infront of two other people. If I didn't do what I was supposed to and someone else reported it I still would have been out of a job.

on Feb 11, 2012

6 month severance package is pretty good.   I might have done the same in your shoes.   If you had gone after them I think you would have won, but maybe not worth it.  If they just threw you out with nothing you probably could have taken them for a $100,000 judgement--rightfully, I might add.   And that's just for you--if they had thrown your wife out, too, it would have been so blatant you probably would have become millionaires.

on Feb 11, 2012

It was funny to watch but not really very good parenting. When you act out of anger and do something rash and public to punish your daughter for acting out of anger and doing something rash and public, you are really just reinforcing the behavior. It would have been better to just make her apologize on her FB account and then make her the cleaning lady for a few months. 

on Feb 11, 2012

PoSmedley

I'm not trying to be flip or sarcastic, but is this an anti-gun thing for you?

definitely an anti-gun thing.

(or maybe just different laws/ culture ... thus seeing bullets flying non-randomly as still outrageous)

still, he was obviously on his farm, and discharging a weapon on private property outside of certain 'congested zones' is perfectly legal and accepted in America.

Of course its always poor form to shoot bullets straight into the air, and legal responsibility for any damage caused by stray bullets would always be on the one who fired them. Therefore if you have neighbors or public zones anywhere remotely close to you, its not good to go skeet shooting in your backyard.

on Feb 11, 2012

seanw3
It was funny to watch but not really very good parenting. When you act out of anger and do something rash and public to punish your daughter for acting out of anger and doing something rash and public, you are really just reinforcing the behavior. It would have been better to just make her apologize on her FB account and then make her the cleaning lady for a few months. 

Not being sarcastic, but it's funny how a lot of people can comment on how he reacted without having been exactly in his shoes and knowing the entire story of what has gone on in his life with this child. I'm sure he has already been contacted by Dr. Phil.

The guy made some holes in the laptop. Too much symbolism is being placed on how he made the holes. He may have been angry, but I don't think what he did was done in anger. It was measured response that he even warned her would be the next step should she ...and this is really key...continued...continued to disrespect her parents publicly, on line, etc.

As for doing it 'publicly', he didn't even scrape the surface in terms of how she humiliated her parents with his response and she definitely needs to learn now that her actions in public can and will bring reaction in the same forum or manner. If she thought her responses out before acting on them, half as much as the father did, she might still have a laptop.

on Feb 11, 2012

Knowing the area, and the type of folks who live in said area, I would strongly suspect that there is much more to this then what that parent is claiming.

I also suspect a chance of a hoax.

on Feb 11, 2012


Here’s a growing problem: College graduates who have never had a job of any kind.
I get a lot of these resumes on my desk now. 4-5 years in college, living at home, never worked. No mall job. No McDonalds. No summer landscaping. Nothing.
I used to not pay that close attention to that but I do now.  I have to because kids who have never had a job have no idea what’s expected at a job. Basic things like getting up every day and being at work at a consistent time. 5 days a week.
If you’re a parent and you’re not making your kid work so that they can “focus on their grades” you’re doing them a disservice. I won’t interview anyone anymore that has never had a job. I don’t care what their GPA was.

Wait what? even before I was in high school or my first job I had to wake up at a consistent early (4-5) in the morning to go with my mom into another city where I went to school. My problem with my jobs were they were never things i can put on my resume, for example one job I had, was I woke up at 5 every morning, hopped in a van with a group of gentlemen and road it for about a hour to a straw field where I worked for about 8 hours a day moving and packing straw into the back of trucks. The kicker was I got this job by nor formal means. When I explain this to someone at my college who was working the staff for student work study, they told me to say I don't have any work experience. which is what will go on my resume, but in fact I do.

on Feb 11, 2012

OMG_blackmage
When I explain this to someone at my college who was working the staff for student work study, they told me to say I don't have any work experience. which is what will go on my resume, but in fact I do.

Do they give you a reason not to put it on your resume? Or why it couldn't be creatively described as  Shipping Coordinator? 

I know one reason that has come up in my own experience is being advised not to put things in that do not necessarily apply to the position you are seeking. So, you may not want to put down 'Packer' when applying for an IT position. I was just wondering if you were given a reason.

on Feb 11, 2012

PoSmedley

Quoting OMG_blackmage, reply 112 When I explain this to someone at my college who was working the staff for student work study, they told me to say I don't have any work experience. which is what will go on my resume, but in fact I do.

Do they give you a reason not to put it on your resume? Or why it couldn't be creatively described as  Shipping Coordinator? 

I know one reason that has come up in my own experience is being advised not to put things in that do not necessarily apply to the position you are seeking. So, you may not want to put down 'Packer' when applying for an IT position. I was just wondering if you were given a reason.

No not really, I figured it was because that was more of a under the table type of job I got. I did the work, got paid in cash, and than went on. One thing I did learn is I can literally program myself to almost any type of scheduled I need to be in, and if I don't have one I usually will automatically wake up around 5 am.

on Feb 11, 2012

PoSmedley
Not being sarcastic, but it's funny how a lot of people can comment on how he reacted without having been exactly in his shoes and knowing the entire story of what has gone on in his life with this child. I'm sure he has already been contacted by Dr. Phil.

 

Actually there is alot we can see in the video that tells us a little bit about the father. He showed signs of long term brain damage from alcohol abuse. He has a minor speech impediment, possibly indicating general antisocial behavior. He is divorced and has remarried. He claims to be involved in the IT industry. His economic status appears to be middle upper class. He seems comfortable expressing his anger to his daughter by swearing and demeaning her. 

I would point out that dealing with rebellious teenagers is a difficult task for any parent. That said, his parenting style is likely to drive his daughter into a pattern of increasingly rebellious acts. Children of divorce are difficult to parent. But you can't teach a child right from wrong by responding to poor behavior with and escalation of poor behavior. Given the available information, I think my comments were rather well tuned. I look at situations like this from a systems theory perspective. His patterns will show his daughter the consequences of getting caught. There was no real lesson about right and wrong. But, as you say, I don't know the whole story, so I could be wrong. Probably not though.

on Feb 11, 2012


I guess I should revise my opinion on the mad dad, after my friends & family have viewed the video--not so much because it was posted on this forum, but because it's freaking viral.  #2 most viewed on YouTube, and on every news station in America. 

I think it all rides on who is telling the truth about her chores.  If it's true, all she has to do is make her own bed, wipe the counter, empty the dishwasher, then she is one seriously spoiled brat who deserved what she got.  If she has to clean the house, fetch him coffee, and all the things she alleged in her FB posting, I tend to side with her.  And I tend to find her side not out of the question, because she was made to get up at 5am.  Why does she have to get up at 5am to go to school???   The earliest I ever had to get up during my entire grade school years was 6am, and then I had time to watch TV before riding to work with a teacher (who had to be there at 7:30).

on Feb 11, 2012

If anyone imagines that 'problem solution' by the use of a gun is 'good parenting' probably shouldn't be a parent.

Yes, it's ALL about the method.....and up there with parents beating the crap out of each other at their kids' football match.

on Feb 11, 2012

on Feb 11, 2012

seanw3
Actually there is alot we can see in the video that tells us a little bit about the father. He showed signs of long term brain damage from alcohol abuse. He has a minor speech impediment, possibly indicating general antisocial behavior.

I made assumptions like that about a guy in our neighborhood once. Then I learned he had all of those little issues because he got hit by the postal truck he pulled a child out of the way of. Yeah, you could be wrong. We've all been wrong at one time or another when we make assumptions.

If anyone imagines that 'problem solution' by the use of a gun is 'good parenting' probably shouldn't be a parent.

Yes, it's ALL about the method.....and up there with parents beating the crap out of each other at their kids' football match.

You know I respect you, so I'm not asking because I want to argue with you, but I don't understand your reasoning. And how does destroying a laptop compare to two adults inflicting bodily harm on one another?

I've looked at the guys YT and FB page and the support is overwhelming. From videos of soldiers in active duty who support him to huge amounts of money being donated to MDA per his request.

You may not agree with him, but he's definitely touched a nerve for a whole lot of people. If you assume the worst about this guy, one thing is for certain, the whole world is watching now and it will come out if it's there. 

on Feb 11, 2012

Po...

Because both are equally poor examples to children....that 'disagreements' etc. can be solved with violence.

It's that sort of 'education' that sees kids getting uptight at school and then there's another Columbine.

Not only does this set a PARTICULARLY poor example it goes viral on YouTube to the point he is now an 'effing HERO.

Quick, everyone....rush out and buy a '45 just so you can emulate this 'hero'....but you may have to step it up a little....shoot something more controversial than a kid's computer....does she have a dog?

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