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So I watched the most recent Star Wars: The Clone Wars (“Crisis on Naboo”) and really enjoyed it.  I enjoyed it enough that I decided to go over to TheForce.Net and see about conversing with others about it.  Oh god. What a mistake.

I didn’t even get to the posting part. I just read pages and pages of bitching about how terrible the episode was.  Then I read the same thing about every episode they listed on there. Just pages and pages of ranting and complaining about how terrible the episode is. And mind you, this is a “fan” site.


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on Feb 11, 2012

From an article about Lucas retiring from making epic movies like Star Wars.

"News of Lucas's eventual departure from the world of blockbusters will surely hit "Star Wars" fanboys the hardest; there will be no more prequels or re-cuts of the series. To the director, though, this comes as a kind of relief.

"Why would I make any more when everybody yells at you all the time and says what a terrible person you are?""

From what I have seen, a good number of Star Wars fans are some of the most critical and negative I have experienced and I grew up among the Philadelphia sports fans.

on Feb 11, 2012

Meh, these days I tend to ignore anything Star Wars related that doesn't have Kyle "Awesome Beard" Katarn in it. I remember seeing a few episodes of the cartoon version of The Clone Wars, thought it was OK. Haven't seen the CGI one, but I did play the game based on it. It was sort of better than The Force Unleashed in regards to how a lightsaber is supposed to work, but the padwan Anakin had grated my cheese whenever she called him "Sky guy". If that happens trought the entire series, I can understand the hate.

on Feb 11, 2012

I thought I saw a quote in a recent Time magazine from George Lucas that went something like (paraphrasing), "Why would I make any more Star Wars movies if all I get is people saying, 'You suck' and other negative comments?"

 

*Edit* Whoops, someone already posted it. Anyways, it's a sad day.

on Feb 11, 2012

Which is why I ignore the "fans" of Star Wars and just enjoy it for myself. Is Star Wars sometimes cheesy and sometimes has things go left field? Yes. Do other Sci-Fi series do the same thing? Yes. I find most Star Wars fans (but not all, like myself) to be the most self centered, immature, nit-picky, rude fans of all.

 

on Feb 11, 2012

The most recent episode had a great light saber battle between Anakin and Dooku. It has been very enjoyable watching the very gradual descent of Anakin in the show (unlike the third movie which felt rushed).

on Feb 11, 2012

Wait, so this series actually fixes the plot? I may give it a try, even if there'll probably be no Kyle "Chuck Norris looks like me not the other way around" Katarn love in it. Any chance it'll extend beyond the Clone Wars and overwrite Revenge of the Sith?

on Feb 11, 2012

I haven't watched too many of them so I don't know what all they have explored but I would be curious as to what guidelines they have to follow in their story telling.  Some things about the Star Wars 'verse are and always will be written in stone for anyone jumping in to the fray of adding to the story arc. What I am particularly curious about is the Star Wars rules on time travel because should that ever be acceptable, the fans will really go nuts (eg Star Trek).

There is an article here about the possible upcoming, live-action Star Wars series that this past week rumors have begun to circulate on the possibility of time travel in the Star Wars saga that could change or undo everything we know.

on Feb 11, 2012

The Revenge of the Sith novelization fixes the plot of the movie Revenge of the Sith.

In the novel, it's pretty obvious that the Jedi had it coming and that Anakin did the right thing. Whether he needed to personally "deal" with the Younglings or not is debatable but it was pretty obvious that someone would have to deal with them.

Now, in the CGI show, The Clone Wars, Anakin is a pure hero. No whining. No endless brooding. Even the voice acting is forceful. He's doing what he thinks is right and the Jedi are quite often NOT doing what is right (other than Obi Wan, Yoda, and Anakin, the Jedi treat the clones basically like disposable droids).

Anakin's gradual migration to the dark side comes across has his occasional (but becoming more often) use of anger to fuel his combat abilities which he deems necessary to do "what needs to be done".  The Jedi, by contrast, often come across as hopelessly detached and elitist. Anakin's problem is that he cares about people. The Jedi's problem is that they don't care, the whole war is academic.

In the most recent episode, it becomes pretty obvious that when the people Anakin cares about are in danger, Anakin will do whatever it takes to win.

on Feb 11, 2012

I never got other Star Wars fans. The Clone Wars is a great show for children. It's one of those shows that also offers something for the grown ups to enjoy too. Lightsaber duels get better every episode. I don't see a reason to complain.

The problem with making an epic fantasy environment is that it will attract people that want an imaginary universe to live in, as there is little control over the real one. It's pretty easy to get flamed when your fans see you as the creator of an entire universe. Every inconsistency in new iterations of the universe is an affront to these people's reality. And that doesn' even cover the schizophrenics and bipolar people. Fantasy is a dangerous thing. 

on Feb 11, 2012

Its just not Star Wars fans who are like this...

 

Marvel and DC Comic fan boys are just as bad.

 

Lordy Lordy Lord....forgive someone for taking a new twist on a classic charcter or ever universe. 

 

 

 

Anywho, I really really like The Clone Wars. I watch with my son every Friday. I understand why the hardcore fans dont like it, but if your one of them you gotta treat this as those who like comics treat a new adaptation of your favorite comics. 

on Feb 11, 2012

seanw3
The problem with making an epic fantasy environment is that it will attract people that want an imaginary universe to live in, as there is little control over the real one. It's pretty easy to get flamed when your fans see you as the creator of an entire universe. Every inconsistency in new iterations of the universe is an affront to these people's reality. And that doesn' even cover the schizophrenics and bipolar people. Fantasy is a dangerous thing. 

I agree with this, especially when you take into  account the format the series is in and channel it airs on. However, the rest of us are split and their voices grow loud in my head.

on Feb 11, 2012

So the Jedi are like WWI officers?

 

given the war tactics shown in Star Wars in general, this is not very surprising

on Feb 11, 2012

I absolutely despise The Clone Wars (TCW), because it has no respect whatsoever for the existing Expanded Universe (EU), and blurs the lines between canon and fanon. TCW purposefully contradicts the existing EU every step of the way, from retconning the Tantive IV in Revenge of the Sith to be the Sundered Heart from Star Wars: Empire at War (EaW) to retconning Ryloth, the homeworld of the Twi'lek, to rotate on its axis like every other planet, when the books always had one side face its star (like our moon always facing the same way towards Earth). I also can't stand Ahsoka Tano or Cad Bane. They can do nonsense like this, but they can't provide proper technical details for many ships and vehicles.

on Feb 11, 2012

Star Wars is one of the few fictional universes that has multiple generations of fans, each of which was introduced to the universe through a different set of interpretations. My theory is that the backlash over the animated series (and other relatively recent additions to the universe) results from one generation of fans dissatisfaction over what they view as their universe being rewritten for a newer generation. As a Star Wars fan, I'm not exactly immune to this. I've bristled over some of the posts in this thread because they were written by fans that have vastly different perspectives on the universe than I do.

on Feb 11, 2012

Now I enjoy "The Clone Wars" series. Ya sometimes my inner nerd will complain on little details, and yes it is point towards kids but still adults can watch it. Now I did love the "Clone Wars" series where the droids didn't talk to much and were straight up killers (they are not always herpa derp) and things were just epic, the fighting, ship fights, etc...

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