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Published on April 30, 2012 By Draginol In Science & Tech

 

If you’re looking for a non-politicized (just the facts) site for global temperatures here’s a good one:

http://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/

All it does is use the NOAA satellite data to measure the atmospheric temperatures. No more. No less.  As a result, it doesn’t rely on readings ground stations which have tended to be somewhat inaccurate or affected by ambient temperature changes due to man-made construction (i.e. as an area gets urbanized, it gets warmer).

Regardless of where you stand on climate change, the numbers probably won’t make an advocate of either side very happy.


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on May 01, 2012

To find later

on May 01, 2012

lulz.

 

burn all of the fossil fuels!

 

ALL OF IT.

on May 01, 2012

I'd like to see that graph extended. There appears at first sight to be a 25 year (approx) cycle in there. Interesting.

on May 01, 2012

For what it's worth, several studies (including this one by skeptic Richard Muller) have found that "heat island" effects are minimal and have little bearing on the conclusions of such analyses.

on May 01, 2012

Closer to 36, if it's even valid to extrapolate on that amount of data. Agree a lot more data is needed, if those are the only measurements to be used.

on May 01, 2012

Doesn't correlate very well with CO2 output, but does with solar activity. What were the odds?

on May 02, 2012

James Lovelock just backed off of his apocalyptic predictions.  He is the father of the scare.

on May 02, 2012

All I know is that Washington state is the most temperate place on the god damn earth. I would welcome some warm rain for a change. 

on May 02, 2012

Don't know why everybody all concerned about this weather nonsense when they all know Jesus is coming back soon to save the day, amen!

on May 02, 2012

The ever-after is one huge toy store for me to play in.

on May 02, 2012

Climate change happening is pretty obvious for everyone but the most extreme critics.  What isn't so obvious is what are the synergies causing it.  How much is man-made, how much natural, how much from past industrialization and how much from the present?

Proponents want to control global industry and economy and introduce all sorts of austerity measures to force people to change--even to the point of further damaging the world economy and making it less stable.  They cheer every "proof" that it's "man's fault" (entirely) and ignore are become agitated at anything that shows other factors.

Here's a good one: One large and prolonged volcanic eruption can dump as much CO2 into the atmosphere as the last century of industrial pollution.  

Another recent and sound study showed that if you stopped every bit of global industry right now it would not reverse the presently known changes.

The last thing is that even though we know a lot about causes, we really don't understand and have data for the "whole system"--we just know bits and pieces.

It's no problem doing something long term about it but its the, "Give us control now and don't question us you idiots!" attitudes of the green movement extremists that make the rest of us mistrusting of their motives and agendas.

on May 02, 2012

Dick Clark won't be around to ring in the New Year this year.

Well played, Mayans.  Well played.

on May 02, 2012

Regardless of where you stand on climate change, the numbers probably won’t make an advocate of either side very happy.

Isn't this a bit of a flawed premise?     Is there any believer in global warming who would not just LOVE to be wrong?    Personally I am extremely concerned for what would happen to this planet if the polar caps melt.  We are talking to the tune of being uninhabitable.    Some people will probably think I'm crazy, but I would love nothing more than for them to be right.  I just don't think they are.

The same goes for the "okay, maybe there's global warming, but it's not man-made" camp.   Isn't it a bit irrational NOT to wish you were wrong?   If it isn't man-made, then there is nothing we can do about it.  But if it is, there is.  

on May 03, 2012

The bottom line is, we need to know--not just presume.

on May 03, 2012

seanw3
All I know is that Washington state is the most temperate place on the god damn earth. I would welcome some warm rain for a change. 

I have been to the Northwest about half a dozen times (all on business).  I have yet to see the sun when I am there (although the natives do assure me it does shine).

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