Brad Wardell's views about technology, politics, religion, world affairs, and all sorts of politically incorrect topics.
Published on February 25, 2013 By Draginol In Personal Computing

As we get more connected online, the haters of the world become more empowered. I am often astonished at some of the brazen behavior I see in comments and on forums by people who, one assumes, are functioning people in real life. 

I think a key ingredient is narcisism. i cant think of any other explanation for someone who puts effort into trying to upset other people while their own identities are just a bit of Google-Fu away. If you’ve ever read an article on someone before, there’s inevitably anonymous trolls who say unbelievably nasty things about them.  Of course, they do so because they think they're anonymous.

Imagine if their ugly behavior was quoted and attached to their “real name” when you Googled them? I suspect we’d see a change in behavior pretty quickly.

I have mixed feelings on anonymity on the Internet. On the one hand, I’ve seen people make threats against me, my wife and occasionally even against my kids. So I am very conscious of how vulnerable we are to the worst humanity has to offer.  On the other hand, I can’t help but notice that the worst behavior is usually done by people who think that they’re safe from retaliation because they think they’re anonymous.

So I’m not sure what should be done.  Almost everyone reading this has dealt (or at least observed) a persistent Internet troll. You can ban them but they’ll be back. As trolling becomes more common and increasingly nastier, it’s an issue that’s going to have to be addressed somehow.  Having seen the slow evolution of the Internet troll over the past 20 years, I can tell you, the ability to inflict harm on people is growing.  Sooner or later, it’s going to have to be dealt with.


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on Mar 20, 2013

Campaigner
The true way of stopping someone from doing that is through physical force. I soo regret I never did that....

....and what....Columbine v.2?

One hopes you're not imbued with the American gun culture......

 

No, violence with regards to bullies and/or trolls isn't a real answer at all.

on Mar 20, 2013

myfist0
The word 'forum' by its very nature is public, if it was not public, it should be called a 'private' message board. Just like you never see the 2 words private park together without scratching your head and saying "WTF?". And just because it's public, don't mean there are no rules.

It's a privately owned 'forum' which is NOT actually open to 'the public' at all as you must first register as a User in order to comment.

Just being a little pedantic with the accuracy here....

Oh, and it's exactly that 'registering' that invokes the standards of conduct/limitations on what would otherwise be a freely 'open' forum where anything goes...

on Mar 20, 2013



Quoting Campaigner, reply 90The true way of stopping someone from doing that is through physical force. I soo regret I never did that....

....and what....Columbine v.2?

One hopes you're not imbued with the American gun culture......

 

No, violence with regards to bullies and/or trolls isn't a real answer at all.

 

Punches, kicks, elbows, knees, you name it. Might makes right. The strongest wins. Military is the epitome of that.

I know the above make me sound like a Berserker or something but it just sounds that way. I have always (and still are) been a really nice guy but I CAN'T allow myself to be blind to reality. And the reality is that people follow strength!

 

Internettrolls I have always just avoided. Even avoided heated discussions. Recently though, I've taken on a new approach to them. Troll back!

Even goes for heated discussions. Don't back out. Just keep at it.

on Mar 20, 2013

Campaigner
Recently though, I've taken on a new approach to them. Troll back!

Not a good survival trait here, however.

Trolls get removed....irrespective of their motivation...

on Mar 20, 2013

Sticks and stones may break my bones but trolls will never hurt me

on Mar 20, 2013

myfist0


Quoting Nick-Danger, reply 85First, this is not a public forum, it's a private forum.

The word 'forum' by its very nature is public...
This is the fallacious argument 'Apples and Oranges' (my term).  Remember the topic is about internet trolls.  It's clear I'm using 'forum' in the sense of an internet forum hosted by a private company ('Apple'), which is a valid use of the term.  You argue by referring to a different usage of the term 'forum', one based upon a physical space in a city --  the old Roman forum ('Orange'). Yikes!  A word can have different usages/meanings!  Quelle Surprise!

'Orange' does not a valid anti-'Apple' argument make.

Etymology is interesting, and in this case helps demonstrate how word usage changes over time.

If you wish to argue semantics regarding 'forum', be my guest, but I do not.

on Mar 20, 2013

Fuzzy Logic

Sticks and stones may break my bones but trolls will never hurt me

You might feel differently when a bunch of them decide to go and give your book a 1-star review and the wife of a banned troll goes and makes a fake review on her own site that shows up high on Google.

on Mar 20, 2013

Nick-Danger
If you wish to argue semantics regarding 'forum', be my guest, but I do not.

.....and yet you did...

on Mar 21, 2013



Quoting Nick-Danger, reply 96If you wish to argue semantics regarding 'forum', be my guest, but I do not.

.....and yet you did...
lol!

My response is to argue that I argued rhetoric, not semantics -- specifically, that myfist0's argument against my initial argument is fallacious, and it is fallacious because it's 'apples/oranges' based upon his using a different meaning for 'forum' than what I used.

Is arguing rhetoric based upon a 'semantic fallacy' truly arguing semantics?  Enquiring/arguing minds want to know!

Wait, what were we arguing about? 

Thanks for the opportunity for mental exercise/gymnastics 

Off to d/l LH beta!

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