I see that in the Planetary screen.  What is interesting is it feels like we will have more micro per planet if wanted if not using global governors. 

Also note that we have a return of citizens giving quotes about the status of the Planet. This is a return from GCII, which lets the player see how the folks on that Planet feel, either about the empire or the planet itself. 

Nice spot! Totally missed that one.

It was stated that food is now an empire resource, rather than just per planet. And a new improvement, cities, will determine the amount of pop per planet.

So I does this mean we are changing how production is generated entirely? It means that we can no longer increase production based on boosting population at each planet by simply building a factory and 10 farms. I would think that is still the case but the increase is probably more gradual as each planet now contributes to the galaxy as a whole. 

We will see!

Wow, reading all this new info is making my head spin with all its possibilities and showing me that I'm going to have to re-learn this game all over again. I do like the concepts being shown here a lot, though. Will be interesting to see how they all pan out in practice. Can't wait!

wellin actuality production with out trade, or manufacturing was never that important.

I still have a tough time differentiating between 'Manufacturing' and 'production'..From what I see is this..

Manufacturing is the value/force to build buildings on the planet. 

Raw production is a numerical value that is based on population. 

Factories, take the raw production value of that planet and apply a percentage above that.. (4 factories all +20% would be +80%) 

Production is the final value/force that is used to build stuff I guess, Ships to the Shipyard or Money from Econo buildings. I do not know how influence is calculated. 

I may be COMPLETELY wrong and I am happy to be corrected, other folks here probably know better than me. 

It does look like we are getting a complete revamp of how things are done on our game which is great! 

I thought raw production, and production is the same, one was short for the other. The translation in world terms would be how much one would build if there were no factories. This would go down with trade, but you probably get more with trade, so trade would be more significant than production taking a economic hit if you didn't have factories. While one would loose manufacturing, or production the other would loose money. This could do this to both if they both had resources or factories, but this could also be affected by how much one factory employee makes. Making the one with the lowest standard of living the winner, unless; the other guy had tarrifs. In game terms factories manufacturing is times Production I do agree that power plants should be base manufacturing since they would affect many things not just one building Ie duranthium refinery. In the real world a industrialised nation is about forty times a unindustrialized nation. forty times translate to 4000% more production from factories. I guess to be affective the factory value would have to change depending on the map size, and rarity of options to keep this value from being overpowered on the largest map. This would require a estimate based on what the average player builds in factories. Also if you capped the total manufacturing level at 4000% then it would be realistic warning the players when they hit the limit, so they wouldn't waste space on things that wouldn't help them in any way. Also all rush building, or buying should do is add production to what you are building while taking a realistic economic hit. Only adding production to what you are doing this to not everything. Again this still would be based on a number of no more that three times. Unless you took a trade hit from this.

The game conflates a couple of words and should be more careful.  "Raw Production" is the technical name for production based on population, asteroid mines, etc, with bonuses applied.

That gets divided up into the three categories, Wealth , Research, Manufacturing.  Each of those have their own bonuses and multipliers.  The Manufacturing gets further split in Social and Military and they can have their own bonuses.  

As far as I am concerned, those should be the only words used in the descriptions and dialogue.  It should be as strictly enforced in text as value names are strictly defined in code, the same string every time.

At times, the game will use "production" or "productivity" in a more colloquial sense, especially in flavor text.  There, it most often seems to mean the total Manufacturing amount or a multiplier applied to the base Manufacturing. If it is in the bonus description, it usually means a bonus applied to the base Manufacturing.  Sometimes, it seems to refer vaguely to the total of all categories with all their bonuses as the "productivity" of that planet.  I find that a valid concept, but a poor word choice.

On the whole, I trust them when they say "raw production".  Otherwise, it doesn't feel consistent, and I kinda have to remember case by case what they really mean.  It annoys the wordsmith in me, but it is hard enough to get typos corrected, let alone getting vocabulary usage polished to my nitpicky standards.

Worker is a poor name for a super ability. It should be changed to perhaps Production Manager, or if limited to one word, just Manager, or even Foreman is better than Worker. 

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Worker is a poor name for a super ability. It should be changed to perhaps Production Manager, or if limited to one word, just Manager, or even Foreman is better than Worker. 

"Industrialist"

Make the manu citizen a robber baron.

A thought occurred to me. What happens to a citizen that is on a colony that gets culture flipped or invaded?