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A great day for big government
Published on June 23, 2005 By Draginol In Politics

So now local authorities can unilaterally confiscate private property from one citizen to give to another citizen.  That's according to the US Supreme court in a narrow 5 to 4 ruling.  Not surprising, the 5 votes in favor of the ruling come from the left.  After all, the best run country is the one in which the central government assigns each of us to our allotted duties. A central government that decides where we live, how we work, how we live, and where we can go.

Okay, maybe that's reading more into the decision that the case merits. But consider the logical conclusion of this case -- local governments can now evict someone from their property and hand it over to another based on the local government's own criteria of what is good for society.  Anyone who has had to deal with local governments for any length of time can cringe collectively.  If you think national politics are mean-spirited, petty, and arbitrary, you should see what local politics looks like.  If you think federally elected politicians -- senators, representatives, the President are fools, idiots, corrupt, or just useless, then you should see the pieces of work that sit on many local councils.  And now these people will have the right to evict property holders if they so choose.

One can imagine the scenarios that could potentially play out.  One local government decides they want to rezone vast swaths of their community to be something completely new and different. So they invite some investors and start kicking out the people who inconveniently happen to live and work on this land. 

Here in Canton Michigan, they're trying to build a new urban "Cherry Hill Village" complete with a theater, shops, etc.  Unfortunately, it's too far from where people live so things aren't going so well.  If only they had built this new urban area closer to where people live.  Like say 5 miles east where there's a lot of new development, big houses, and near the highway.  Oh, but wait, there's a few square miles of older homes in that perfect spot.  No problem, just kick those people out. Out out you go. We have various chain restaurants and stores that need to go in.

And that's not even the worse scenarios.  One can imagine some personal disputes between private citizens and elected local officials in some rural area where the elected official gets his revenge by rezoning the land his opponent lives on for commercial use -- a perfect place for Walmart or Starbucks. Obviously I don't think these scenarios are likely to be widespread, but it wouldn't surprise me to see some incidents of this. 

The state should not have the right to take away the land of one citizen to give to another. This is supposed to be one of the founding principles of our country.  Consider that in the Declaration of Independence the colonists were ripped that British Soldiers were being housed in the homes of colonists.  They were ripped enough about it that it was put into the constitution.  And yet now, the state can do much worse, they can just take away the house entirely and turn it into a barracks (and they could before but now the bar has been lowered so much that if you can take away land from the Johnsons to give to Starbucks then certainly you can take away property from them to give to the US military..).

This is definitely not a shining day in our nation's history.


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on Jun 24, 2005
The idea of people/property belonging to the state is a key concept in a socialist society; this decision only underscores my thesis that we effectively LOST the cold war by assimilating socialist thought into American politics.
on Jun 24, 2005

The concept of eminent domain isn't flawed at the core; but the common practice of the law is GREATLY flawed; especially when it allows for seizure of private property for the profit of the wealthy.

The use of ED, when it is truly for public use (i.e. anyone and everyone can benefit) is a necessary part of living in society.  Grabbing land for private use based upon one man's opinion of benefits is akin to why we fought a war 230 years ago.

on Jun 24, 2005
No, I have to disagree with the idea that eminent domain has a place in a capitalistic, free-market society. We go way beyond in terms of government ownership of state and national parks and reserves already. The government owns huge amounts of national resources.

Eminent domain just proves that we really can't own anything in the US. We rent it with our property taxes until such time the government decides someone else should have it. Without eminent domain, they would have no such tool. With it, all that is needed is tweaking the already-existing power.

Take the power away from them entirely. If you want to live in Star Trek land where the 'greater good' steamrollers the individual, great, but that is not my definition of freedom or liberty or private ownership of property. It's facetious to claim that you are free and that you live in a capitalist society when the government can waltz in and take your home or business to build a railroad.


The kind of oppression we face in the US today is vastly worse than the oppression imposed upon us by Britain, which made us form this nation in the first place, and we feed that oppression with all this talk of 'the greater good', whining for the government to help us and wanting it so badly we give them the power to oppress us.
on Jun 24, 2005
The use of ED, when it is truly for public use (i.e. anyone and everyone can benefit) is a necessary part of living in society. Grabbing land for private use based upon one man's opinion of benefits is akin to why we fought a war 230 years ago.


You put it FAR better than I could.
on Jun 25, 2005
That is disturbing. Yes I agree that property rights are one of the distinguishing points were part of the american culture. From property rights came capitalism and free enterprise. Take away this and the foundation will begin to crumble. It is sad how Orwellian things have become.
on Jun 25, 2005

You put it FAR better than I could.

Coming from you, that is indeed high praise.  Thank you.

on Jun 26, 2005
hmmm... just in time for that new Super Highway that Texas is building, and in New York the downtown Brooklyn staduim as well as the new extention for Javitts in Manhatten.
on Jun 26, 2005
staduim = stadium..

Also... just wondering how exaclty would some projects like transportation, building projects and such get built if there is no way to reclaim the land?

I wonder if this taking of land is just that i.e. we take it and don't pay you for it (with interest and a small profit)? Are they just taking land and just saying get off of it without paying for you to move, buying you land from you, and giving you a reasonable profit as if it was you who was selling it?

hmmmm....
on Jun 26, 2005
The part that is constantly overlooked is that even when the property ends up in the hands of the government, they can do whatever they like with it thereafter. In addition, the government doesn't really build anything. They hire contractors for work like this, PRIVATE contractors most often, who make millions building these "projects".

So, dishonest government officials can steal, yes STEAL, property from individuals, and make millions in government money making these projects. Many times they end up being a stadium or industrial infrastructure to benefit private industry?

Your cronies need a job? Steal some property and build something for "the public interest". Your cronies need a new 4-lane leading to their factory? Steal the property and build a road for them. Your cronies want a new factory but don't want to spend money buying land? Then steal the property, do all the preparation at government expese, and then "lease" the property to them for a pittance.

We need to stop the practice entirely.
on Aug 25, 2005
We have none to blame but ourself.We all sit idly by and watch as our fedral state and local governments draft law after law designed to control us. While defileing our constitutional rights.Think of the word CONTRIVE: to think up; devise, manage, to control.Buck up folks it's
gonna get alot worse!! Here is a passage from a song by a rock group called RUSH some Canadian fellows.I think it personifies where were heading in the good old USA. It goes:
We've taken care of everything the words you read the songs you sing,the pictures that bring pleasure to your eyes.One for all all for one, work together common sons, never need to wonder how or why.
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