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WMD stockpiles in Iraq were never the core issue
Published on July 11, 2004 By Draginol In Politics

The American left who has opposed action in Iraq (and in many cases Afghanistan before that) has increasingly latched on to the myth that "Bush lied".  The theory is that Bush "sold" intervention in Iraq based on stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. And since we've found no massively stockpiles (we have found some WMDs just not in large quantities) we therefore (they argue) went into Iraq based on a false premise. This is total nonsense. 

Besides the usual facts that everyone thought Saddam had stockpiles of WMDs (Clinton, Bush, Kerry, etc.) that wasn't why we went into Iraq.  It was one of the reasons. But it wasn't the primary reason.  The biggest reason was related to WMDs in the sense that we were concerned about Saddam as a long term threat, especially once sanctions got lifted (as France and Russia were pushing for).

The arrogance of the American left on this issue is immense. It is almost contemptuous of the intelligence of the average American.  Even today, most Americans support US action in Iraq.  The recent problems in Iraq have caused that support to dip slightly under 50% in some polls but that has nothing to do with WMD stockpiles, it has to do with frustration with US policies in the occupation.  But if the liberal premise that we went into Iraq for the WMD stockpiles were true, then American support for having gone in there would be at 10% with only the hard core "neo-cons" still in favor of it.  But it's not, the WMD stockpile issue was never a central premise for going in. 

It bears saying it again: If WMD stockpiles were the primary reason for going into Iraq, then the fact that we haven't found any would therefore lead one to conclude that nearly all Americans should believe we made a mistake going in there in the first place.  But that isn't the case. Therefore, other reasons must have taken precedence for their support.


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on Jul 15, 2004
""The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." - President Bush. As we all know, this was not the case."


Actually, we have good reason to believe that that WAS the case... and that the main figure in "debunking" these claims was at best negligent and at worst falsifying the situation himself.

Now, will you apologize for falsely accusing the Bush administration of lying? I tend to doubt it, since lies serve your purposes as well as the truth.

on Jul 15, 2004
Brad,
this is obviously a case where being on different sides of the pond we saw different things. I don't read NationalReview.com and WeeklyStandard.com and so cannot comment on them (haven't heard of them actually). What I did hear lots of was the US and UK governments telling us we needed to invade Iraq, and they were very clear in argueing that Saddam was an imminent threat because of WMD. The UK governments 45 minute claim was a classic example of this. It was all over the daily newspapers and played an important role in convincing the British public to support the war.

I do agree that it is very annoying and irritating for someone to tell me that no WMD have been found so why did I support the war, but it's very easy for me to tell them that from day one I supported it for other reasons. I can emphasise with you on this point.

What I don't emphasise on though, is why you get upset when the same people ask the governments to justify why we went to war in the first place. They messed up in their arguements and should have to answer for that. They are answerable to the people. I think removing Saddam as a serious threat was a perfectly good arguement, but they should be the ones that made that case not us. At the very least they should be admitting that they got it wrong, but it was still the right decision for these other clear reasons. Why can't they do that. I would really like to know.

Sadly I suspect that if they had used only the other reasons they would never had got the public support required. But that's an issue with the public, not with the government.

Paul.
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