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Kyoto accords, crazy schools, Wesley Clark and cheesy linking
Published on December 6, 2003 By Draginol In Blogging

A friend of mine sent me an email that showed the results of Google manipulation with regards to George W. Bush. In this case, a bunch of people go together and linked the words "miserable failure" to the biography of George W. Bush.  So now if you go to Google and type in "Miserable Failure" the first link is George W. Bush.

It's an amazingly petty thing to do and also very easy. I could do the same thing by using my access on several popular websites to link say Total Loser with http://www.deanforamerica.com/.  Do it on say 5 or 6 different pages and within a few months Total Loser will be affiliated with Howard Dean. Gee, clever.

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Meanwhile, over at Right Wing News, there's an article about how a student got expelled for having Advil in her purse. Advil. Part of their zero-tolerance policy.  If there was a better example of why public schools need competition from the private sector this is it.

I'm sorry but I've met a lot of "educators" over the years and generally speaking, they were barely average in intelligence. I had some truly outstanding, gifted teachers and have a neighbor who is a teacher who strikes me as very intelligent. But they are the exception, not the rule.

Public schools suck. Most people know that. The only ones who seem interested in keeping them from having to compete are politicians who put their kids in private schools. I guess the peasantry doesn't deserve any better.

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Despite what Dvorak seems to think, there are a lot of bloggers out there.  We're working on what we hope will become the definitive RSS reader. We're taking a bit different approach with it than the other readers I've seen in that we're going to try to make it very interactive over time.

But still, there are just so many blogs out there.  There's a contest on best blogs.  There are lots of really great blogs out there. It would be cool if ours can make it into some of those categories next year. Part of me wonders how much of these various contests are good old boy networks. For instance, if JoeUser's Alexa rating is in the top 10,000 next year in overall websites with 2 or 3 sites carrying most of the load, I'll start to really wonder if the "old guard" blogs are really more about patting themselves on the back while ignoring newer blogs. I'm probably being paranoid.

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You know what would be a nice feature? Auto-blog rolling. Here's how it would work: A blogger can request to be blog rolled by your site. They go into a database. A special referrals page is created called "Blog Rolls". Sites that send you referrals automatically show up in that blog roll. Now, most blogs here don't have enough referrals to make it worth it yet. But I wonder how hard it would be for us to actually do the work for other sites. Our auto-referring system here seems to be a feature I haven't seen on other sites. Instead, they have that nasty "track back" stuff which is much harder to use in my opinion.

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Good article on One Hand Clapping about how the Geneva Accords are a joke. The basic problem is that right now, that Israeli's and Palestinians don't want peace. Both have to want peace and right now neither do. I suspect that will change when the Palestinians finally wake up one day and see the security fence done and Israel implements a peace solution of its own that the Palestinians have no say over.

People say that the security fence won't work. I disagree. While you can never eliminate terrorism completely in that environment, you can make it a helluva lot better than it is now. I don't have a lot of sympathy for the palestinians or any people who use their youth as rounds of ammunition in a war.

The Simpsons were trying to make fun of the French in the episode where Lisa is Joan of Arc and finds the French catapulting their own soldiers at the enemy's walls. But the irony is, the Palestinians actually do use their people as rounds of ammunition. The only people who have made it a policy to do the modern equivalent of catapulting live people at the enemy.

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Also on One Hand Clapping is an article that points out the insanity of General Clark's tax position. Amongst many things Clark said, the thing he says about income is crazy:

        I've talked to a lot of wealthy Americans, and, you know, when you're making above a certain income level, those extra monies, they buy you security, they buy you options, but they don't buy you the necessities. ...

I tend to consider security a necessity. Financial security or otherwise. Clark really has become a true Democrat in that sense. Sure, an income >$100,000 (like Clark states) will buy you financial security but that's not a necessity when you believe that the government should be the one who takes care of you from cradle to grave. No thank you, I prefer the concept of where I provide the necessities for my family which includes being financially independent -- not needing politicians to take care of me.

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One feature JoeUser badly needs is for it to let us choose between having our handle or our real name used. I don't like my handle being used as my name for my blogs. I'm Brad Wardell. I don't want people to think I'm hiding behind some pseudonym.

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Standard feature blogs should have (that JoeUser.com does have) is having a printer friendly mode. I like to read blogs from bed. I'm a paper type.

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Ed Driscoll's blog today has a great observation about Gary Trudeau. The full article can be found here on Udolpho.com. Actually, I think the issue about ideologues slowly moving further and further in a given direction is inevitable.

On Usenet, people who advocate things (whether that be Macs, OS/2, Open Source, whatever) slowly become more extreme over time. That's because there are always extremists on the other side to pound on you for every opinion. I tend to think that negative feedback drives people more in the opposite direction faster than positive feedback does.

From personal example, I'm openly hostile to open source largely because open source advocates, almost always people who are users of open source, not people actually contributing to it, have nagged me and flamed me over the years for having the "greedy" idea of trying to make a living writing software.  As soon as there is open food, open home,  and open car, I'll give open source a more serious look.

Gary Trudeau, who does Doonesbury, is the same case. He probably started out mildly left and has slowly moved further and further to the left.  I'm not sure who actually reads Doonesbury at this point, they're just so out of touch with reality that one has to wonder how it manages to still get syndicated.

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Insults Unpunished has an entry about whether the Kyoto accords are dead. The Kyoto accords serve as an excellent litmus test for European anti-Bush bias. If you blame Bush for the Kyoto accords not being accepted in the United States, congratulations, you're an anti-Bush bigot.

The senate issued a resolution back in 1997 (passed unanimously) saying that it would not allow the Kyoto accords to pass. It has been dead in the United States since early in the Clinton era. But it's easy to blame Bush just like they blame Bush for the failure for the International Criminal Court to get passed here.  Both issues 0% chance to become law here. Besides the violations to the constitution, particularly in the case of the ICC, the Kyoto accords were arbitrary and unfair. China gets off the hook? What a joke. If you can make nukes, you're not a developing country.

The United States is actually quite efficient with energy per GDP.  One thing anyone from say Europe or Asia will quickly discover when they visit the United States is the lack of pollution. Having been to Europe, the difference is pretty significant (Western Europe anyway).  Clean air. Clean water. Lots of woods.  There are exceptions but the United States does take pollution seriously relatively speaking.  Meanwhile, over in China, most major cities rely on wood burning stoves for their heat and (ahem) "power". Talk to them.

 


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on Dec 06, 2003
Standard feature blogs should have (that JoeUser.com does have) is having a printer friendly mode. I like to read blogs from bed. I'm a paper type.
Bloggers of the world simply need to learn the joys of CSS:

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/goingtoprint/
on Dec 06, 2003
Interesting stuff. Should it be 12/5 though?
on Dec 06, 2003
"A friend of mine sent me an email that showed the results of Google manipulation with regards to George W. Bush. In this case, a bunch of people go together and linked the words "miserable failure" to the biography of George W. Bush. So now if you go to Google and type in "Miserable Failure" the first link is George W. Bush."

It's merely a new technique of media manipulation, commonly called googlewashing as descibed by Andrew Orlowski of "The Register" in april 2003.
on Dec 07, 2003
"Meanwhile, over at Right Wing News, there's an article about how a student got expelled for having Advil in her purse. Advil. Part of their zero-tolerance policy. If there was a better example of why public schools need competition from the private sector this is it."

It's funny how one's view of things determines what "things" mean. When you read it, it showed the need for school vouchers. When I read it, it showed the failure of the "war on drugs".


on Dec 07, 2003
If this had been about a conservative school board banning Harry Potter from the library, I wonder if Abe's response would have been different? Draginol made a good point. The law says I have to send my kid to school, and if I don't have 10k a year minimum for an alternative, I have to bend over and take whatever the People's Local Education Authority hands out, even if it is idiotic.

To me the 'war on drugs' connection is akin to, "Look at this rotten weather, don't Republicans suck?"
on Dec 07, 2003
I assumed the ban on Advil is due to a zero tolerance on drugs. Is this incorrect?

"If this had been about a conservative school board banning Harry Potter from the library, I wonder if Abe's response would have been different?"

Well, I don't know about you BakerStreet, but I don't consider Advil and Harry Potter to be the same thing. So, umm...yeah, my reaction would of course be different.

" The law says I have to send my kid to school..."

False.

"...if I don't have 10k a year minimum for an alternative..."

Wrong again.
on Dec 07, 2003
When you say "zero tolerance on drugs", that's a local school board's policy, and it was my understanding that law enforcement wasn't involved in this case. The "war on drugs" generally refers to the federal, or at least law enforcement policy. ( http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&edition=us&q=%22War+on+Drugs%22 )

If by "war on drugs" you meant this particular school board's effort, I apologize, but it seems an overblown term for such a storm in a teacup. Since you contrasted it with Draginol's politically polarized opinion, I assumed you were showing a interpretation from a bit further left. Perhaps you were unclear?

"False."

Ah, sorry Abe. Of course my wife or myself could quit our job and homeschool... and live in our car. As for the 10k thing, I priced every non-church private school around here 3 years ago when my little girl started kindergarten and the cheapest one was $9800+ a year. Your own community may be different, of course. Besides homeschooling and private school I am unaware of any way to avoid battling 'truancy'.

If you have something better to back up the 'false' with please pipe up, I would love to get my little girl out of socialist education.
on Dec 07, 2003
It seems to me that the zero tolerance policy of the school exists because of the government's war on drugs. Why else would they have such a policy?

"I priced every non-church private school around here 3 years ago when my little girl started kindergarten and the cheapest one was $9800+ a year."

Then you must live in Manhatan or some similar place with an insane cost of living. For example, the average tuition for elementary private schools in Arizona is about $2,700.

As for homeschooling, can you or your wife set aside one day a week to teach? If so all you have to do is get together with four other parents.
on Dec 08, 2003
"Why else would they have such a policy?"

I'm not seeing the advil thing as an extension. That would be akin to a school board banning Mexican students because of the government's policy on illegal immigration. This has more in common with perpetually frightened school systems that expel kids for taking fingernail clippers to school in their purse. I'm not 100% in agreement with the 'war on drugs', mind you, but this is way too far beyond stupid to even be a sideshow of it.

Thanks for the for the info on alternative schooling. I'm in lexington KY. The church-run private schools run around 3-5k a year, the secular tend to be a lot more. To be honest, the day care around here is more than $2700 a year. It is hard for me to get my mind around $300 a month for private school.

I considered homeschooling when she started kindergarten, but the homeschooling association here had a very 'religious' tone. I'm not opposed to religion, but I wasn't comfortable with the language I heard, even in their secular conversations. Maybe when she is old enough to make up her own mind, but that stuff sinks into elementary school kids so easily.

Thanks again. Didn't mean to be a troll.
on Dec 08, 2003
Nice round-up.

Don't agree with your views (or the standard american view) on Kyoto though. I will certainly concede that it is a US view though and not just Bush who is against it. It's a fact though that Amreican is the largest polluter on the planet (by far). The emission levels from factories of gases are a matter of fact and you're personal experiences don't change the facts. China has ratified Kyoto and has started to make efforts. Russia may not actually ratify and nobody is quite sure. As for the rest of the planet (which has signed and ratified) they all had a nice conference last week and started discussing a WTO petition for retalitary taxes against the US for "unfair economic advantage due to lower environmental costs". Bit harsh really, but may help you realise how seriously many countries take this issue.

Of course if you believe the US should be allowed pollute more per population or per land size or per GDP than any other nation on the planet then please say so,

Paul.

Paul.
on Dec 08, 2003
"Despite what Dvorak seems to think, there are a lot of bloggers out there. We're working on what we hope will become the definitive RSS reader. We're taking a bit different approach with it than the other readers I've seen in that we're going to try to make it very interactive over time."

Bah. Bah I say. Dvorak's been absolutely out-of-touch with the computer world for well over a decade now. It's time his publishers realized this and put him out of his misery.
on Dec 08, 2003
Solitair,

Your "facts" are simply wrong. The US is not anywhere near being the largest polluter per GDP. Here's a short list of countries who are bigger polluters per GDP: Russia, China, India, Mexico, Brazil. That's just off the top of my head. Heck, there's a good chance Germany and UK are ahead of the US in those categories.

What I get tired of is:

1) People who don't know what they're talking about on Kyoto accurding that Bush is somehow to blame about Kyoto.
2) People who confuse CO2 emissions with pollution.
3) People who think that the US is a larger polluter per economic output.

You want to talk REAL pollution as in lead in the air, talk to France and other members of the EU where leaded gasoline is only recently being phased out. The US got rid of leaded gasoline decades ago. CO2 is relatively harmless. The only argument is that it MIGHT cause global warming which MIGHT be bad (or might be good, we just don't know).

You should also do a double check about who has signed and ratified the Kyoto treaty. Because you might be surprised about how many countries have NOT ratified it (such as Russia, one of the largest polluters of all types per GDP in the world).

Anyone who has done any world traveling will tell you the pollution levels of say Moscow, Beijing, Berlin, and New York can't be compared. New York is a pristine garden compared to the former 3.
on Dec 08, 2003
"That would be akin to a school board banning Mexican students because of the government's policy on illegal immigration."--BakerStreet

Yes, it would. But that is exactly what is happening. In the last 15 years the government has spent trillions (that's right, trillions) on the "war on drugs". A lot of insane stuff is done because of the "war on drugs".

In Jefferson County Kentucky the average elementary school tuition is $3,000. Perhaps you need to move to another area, or consider the religous based private schools. You really shouldn't be too worried about your child being overly influenced at a religous school. You have to remember how a child views the world. In your child's eyes you are the center of the universe, so therefore whatever you tell her will carry far far far more weight that what some other adult tells her.

on Dec 09, 2003
Draginol,
it looks like we are talking about completely different issues. The Kyoto accords on global warming are primarily about controlling and reversing global warming. This is all about CO2 and CO2 equivalent gas values. If you are unwilling to discuss this specific greenhouse topic then of course we can't debate it. As this is the US's major issue with Kyoto I will totally understand your position.

if you do want to discuss greenhouse gases then the US is by far the largest polluter of these gases as clearly documented by US CO2 emission reports (look at EPA website). China actually has actually made huge improvements in it's CO2 emissions with it's levels decreasing significantly since 1996 (see http://www.nrdc.org/globalwarming/achinagg.asp). The problem with comparing worldwide figures however is that they tend to be from different years and have slightly different methods of calculation.

The real issue between the US and the developing countries though is to do with haves and have nots. The US has a huge economy and hence a large GDP. The US argues that emissions should be against GDP (as you supported in your post) while the developing world argues this is unfair. It wants to look at total pollution irrespective of whether the country is industrialised or not. Kyoto was a compromise which the US felt it could never accept. The US feels industrialised nations have a right to pollute more.

As for your 3 points
1) Bush is the US president. he is suppossed to lead Americans. If he felt Kyoto was important to them he would argue for it and support it. His lack of movement on this issue and ACTIVE attempts to stop other countries ratifying it ARE seen as a threat to Kyoto.
2) CO2 is a greenhouse gas. Pollutants are chemicals which cause various problems. Kyoto is about greenhouse gases. If you want to talk about Kyoto then you must talk about CO2. Feel free to write any articles you want about pollutants referring to the US suggested solutions, but please keep Kyoto out of it. They are seperate issues.
3) See point above. Have versus have nots is the issue. The US has so is unwilling to sign Kyoto. It's an unfair world and the US intends to keep it that way.

I would love to hear your opinion on these two questions

a) Should industrialised nations be allowed pollute more?
Is it acceptable to talk about pollution and global warming seperately?

I know the US stated feelings on these but would be interested to hear your views,

Paul.
on Dec 09, 2003
Solitair: Hey, you were the one that claimed in your earlier post right above that the US is the world's largest CO2 polluter per GDP which is blatantly false.

Of course the US produces the most CO2 emissions. It's by far the world's largest industrial nation. It's like saying that Russia is hogging the most land mass in the world.

1) Bush is simply not wasting time on something Americans overwhelming reject. We don't buy into the Kyoto premise in the first place. We don't agree that Russia, China, and India are "developing" countries. Come on, they have nukes for crying out loud.

2) CO2 is a green house gas. It's not a pollutant. Trying to turn CO2 into a pollution issue strains credibility. Give me CO2 over say LEAD in the air which Europeans have a much higher concentration of in their air. Americans, such as myself, are skeptical over the dangers of CO2. Sure, Europeans are afraid of Co2 but then again, they're afraid of a lot of things.

3) You're right, it's an unfair world. I don't see why the US should sacrifice itself economicaly so that China can become more competitive. The Kyoto protocol would have certain helped China at our expense.

a) "be allowed". Allowed by whom?

Yes. Because CO2 isn't pollution any more than water vapor (also a greenhouse gas btw).

My view is that sovereign nations should decide for themselves what is best for their people. I do not believe that CO2, in the amounts the world produces, is going to have a significant impact on the weather. And even if I am proven to be incorrect, which I doubt it, no one knows whether it'll be a good or bad effect.

Most kyoto advocates I've talked to are completely ignorant of the world's historical climate. We're actually in a relatively cold phase of the earth's history. Or more to the point, the world is still in an ice age. People think the last ice age ended 20,000 years ago (actually most people don't even know that). They are incorrect. We are merely in an inter-glacial period.

The progress I like seeing is more efficient use of energy. I would like to see a move to nuclear power for power generation and then fuel cells to take care of the cars. Ironically, the same people who want Kyoto are often the most vocal anti-nuclear people. They're not proposing solutions, they're just bitching.
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