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Gratitude is a virtue...
Published on August 28, 2004 By Draginol In Business

Never underestimate the ability of human beings to rationalize their behavior.  No matter what it is you give away freely, you will always end up with some people who will rationalize that they are customers and should be treated as such.  

The blogger who inspired me into starting my blog, Steven Den Beste, has decided to take an extended break from blogging.  In a nutshell, he’s fed up.  Fed up with people nitpicking his writing. People who make demands on him as if they were his customers with some right to make demands.  

He puts it thusly:

I've learned something interesting: if you give away ice cream, eventually a lot of people will complain about the flavors, and others will complain that you aren't also giving away syrup and whipped cream and nuts.

This isn’t confined just to those who write articles that they freely share on the Internet. Any sort of free product, good, or service will have people who feel they are entitled to make demands on the creator.  

 So let me share with you what I consider to be the 5 rules of free stuff:  

(1)   Unless money is being paid by you for the product, good or service being provided, you are not a customer. Get over it. You have no rights. Deal with it.  

(2)    Even if you paid money for the product, good, or service under discussion, your ability to make demands decreases depending on how many separations there are between you and the person you are making demands on.  If you paid the person directly, you have maximum leverage. But the more layers there between you and the person you’re talking to, the more diluted your leverage becomes. If I work at Microsoft and I’m posting on some forum, don’t bitch at me that I need to personally solve your Windows problems .  

(3)   If it’s free be gracious about it. Don’t complain that you should get more free stuff from the person. Anything you ask for is you asking a favor of the person providing the free thing. Polite requests = good. Demands = bad.

(4)   Don’t get mad or accuse the person/company of being “greedy” if some of their products/services aren’t free. Who is really the “greedy” one? The person who has given away things for free or the person who, having paid nothing, makes demands for more free stuff?  

(5)   If you think you can do something better then do it. Talk is cheap. Nothing is impossible for the person who doesn't have to deliver the goods.    

Let me give you some examples of free stuff that we regularly get people demanding customer level treatment:  

JoeUser.com
JoeUser is a free blog site I provide with the help of Stardock. The business case for the site is that it doesn’t cost much to provide and enables us to write articles and attract potential customers by its sheer popularity. Eventually it will hopefully pay for itself by having premium blogs. But that amount will still be fairly small.

Even though it is free, every day I get people who email me personally demanding all kinds of things. Not requests -- demands. Requests for help are fine. Demands are another thing. When people start making demands on how the site is run, they need to look up rule #1. If you’re not paying money for the site, you have no rights. You have no right to demand anything. But still, we see people who regularly make public demands or argue how unprofessional I or someone else is. Unprofessional? We’re not being paid to post there. We’re not paid to moderate. We go on there in our free time because we enjoy it. It really gets surreal when I occasionally get people who will create a blog on JoeUser that will call me all kinds of names. Needless to say, those blogs don't last long. Then come the screams of censorship and cries of first amendment protection. There is no first amendment rights on JoeUser. You want rights, then send me a check for $50,000. That's about the amount this site costs to have each year.

WinCustomize.com
This is another free site – to a point. Originally it was completely free. But the site costs hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to run so we eventually had to put a limit on how much stuff you could download before contributing something back. It had a negative affect on its Alexa ranking but we learned something valuable: We'd rather have fewer users and more customers.

Amazingly, we regularly have people who show moral outrage at the idea that they should have to pay. Somehow we are greedy because they want to use our bandwidth for free forever without giving anything back.

ObjectDock
This is one of the most notorious ones. ObjectDock is the world's most popular "dock" program. Docks are programs that let you put short-cuts and tasks and other things and typically "dock" them to an edge.  ObjectDock is freeware. But from day one, there's been a lot of people who have made demands on us to do this or that with it as if they were customers.  Not requests -- demands (requests are fine).

And when we came out with ObjectDock Plus (2 years later), which adds more features than what was in the free version, all hell broke loose.  All kinds of people started calling us "greedy" and worse. Lots of demands were made that its features should be in the free version. Or that we have no right to charge in the first place. Why? Because we made the free version available first (as if that makes sense).  There are other docks available and they're free too. But they're not updated anymore. Only ObjectDock receives regular updates. But do these people make the connection that maybe the reason the free version keeps getting updates is because of the existence of the Plus version? Not likely.

All of our freeware programs tend to get ignored when people describe our company as a whole.  Because we're a (gasp) for profit software company, we get the lunatic fringe anti-capitalistic people who think it's wrong that we sell software at all. Not that they are willing to write software and give it away. But they consider themselves just as much as customers as the people who pay for non-free products.

Like Steven, I get a lot of nit-picking about my blogs and articles and comments.  Usually from people who feel they know more than I do on a given subject.  Maybe they do but there's no way to know since they're not willing to take the time to demonstrate their knowledge. Most of the time when I write I simply don't have enough free time to qualify every statement to the nth degree. Sometimes I have to oversimplify something to get the point across.  I don't have patience for including things that are theoretically possible. I tend to stick with what is practically possible.

Still, some people will pass me links or names of books or articles that I "need to educate myself with" so that I can write a retraction or correction at a later date.  When I don't answer those emails, I'll occasionally get a "You've just lost a reader" as if they paid for the site.

The bottom line is that if you didn't pay for the product, good, or service that you're using you need to be conscious of that.  Don't delude yourself into thinking you're some sort of customer entitled to anything. Any request you make is asking for a favor. No matter what that request is, no matter how reasonable or justified you believe that request to be, you are asking for a favor.

In other words, don't complain about the free ice cream.


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on Aug 29, 2004
Sorry, forgot to login. ^^;
on Aug 29, 2004
I put my hand up in support of Draginol!!!
It's a shame that there are those that feel it's their "God Given Right!" to demand things when obvious human decancy argues the exact opposite. There will also be those whom feel that since they have read "the idiots guide to ...whatever..." that they now hold all wisdom to then be spread among the masses. This unfortunate minority will always be amongst our daily doings, which I guess makes the rest of us look pretty damn good hehehehe:).

Keep up the great work and come back soon!
on Aug 29, 2004
"People who make demands on him as if they were his customers with some right to make demands."
While I agree that making demands is just silly, SDB should realize that he is part of the blogosphere and that means he part of a discussion. He realizes this, and frequently uses ppls response to his articles as updates, and as new articles. One should note that in this case it is now not only SDB give stuff out for free, but also his readers giving stuff for free, yet here is SDB complaining that it isn't good enough in some cases, essentially complaining that he doesn't like his free ice-cream.
on Aug 29, 2004
You know what? All of this is just part of life. Sometimes you come across something and suddenly you question what is wrong with this human. Human nature is a very strange subject and I guess we shall never know what these people are thinking when they make their unbacked complaints and demands. This was an article I came across by chance and you hit the nail on the head mate.
on Aug 29, 2004
I agree somewhat. You're entitled to pay less attention to the concerns of users who aren't customers. This isn't the philosophy that, say, deviantART follows, but it has some validity.

It's up to you how you treat your user base. However, I'm sure I'm not the only one who's a little miffed that you seem to think users have done something wrong by complaining about your software products or strategies, on the basis that they don't pay for the product. They helped establish your shareware and freeware as the market leaders, paving the pay for your pay-only software to take advantage of the existing user base and skins.

The people complaining about the free ice cream helped establish your ice cream as a market leader. You're in their debt, not the other way around.
on Aug 29, 2004

kronix: Anyone has the right to complain about anything. But unless money is exchanging hands, they're not customers and should not delude themselves into thinking they are such.

And my post wasn't just about Stardock. In fact, it wasn't meant to be about Stardock's experiences but I didn't feel it appropriate to list examples from others I've heard (Even though some of them are much better). 

It's about people who, usually because they enjoy it, choose to give things out for free being slowly ground down by people who believe they are customers simply because they use that thing.

I have had people email me with long lists of changes they wanted made, for instance, to JoeUser and when I told them that I didn't agree with their changes (such as getting rid of that "awful" right bar) he responded with "Didn't they teach you that the customer is always right?"

on Aug 29, 2004
This article is right on the target's bullseye- -Anyone who really wants to look can see this behavior in all aspects of a free society. It is of no wonder, that people always want something for nothing. In our culture, (what I affectionately call geekdom) we have for years been trying to provide an alternative to the costly research and development of software

by means of shareware and freeware. Make no mistake- -it has worked quite well. However with that inovation in the marketplace came the downside___People being People and demanding more for the money they had never paid in the first place. Any true gamer or true programmer can tell you that in order to make improvements there must be "positive" feedback - -Not whining and bitching - - - --Anyone making demands on a free product would fall into this category and would and should be viewed as just another whining simp.

Peronsally I have used Object desktop and other programs but have also paid for the priveledge. Anyone that enjoys writing these programs as do I- -do so not for the money but for the enjoyment of making it work properly- -but again don't get me wrong- - the money helps pay for what can be a very expensive endeavor. Case in point Joe User- -the server company still needs its money to maintain the network it operates(for profit)- -I could go on and on -but it would all come down to the same thing____________DO NOT DEMAND ANYTHING FROM A FREEWARE ------BECAUSE IT WILL GET YOU NOWARE
on Aug 29, 2004
An open Comment :
Joe (for short) , Dragonil , Frogboy , Mormegil and all other :
i became aware of skinning a couple of years ago , by accident. since , i became a true fan and supporter. it wasnt until this one guy (Mormegil) put an icon-making guide on his site , and i tried it , that i realized how much time it takes and the talent and devotion you needs. i then learned that you skinners / developer's put out 3-4 hours of free time a day , out of pure desire and for bringing skinning to us. having tried software from Stardock and enjoying it , i then continued to the obviously next level - Buying the Software in order to support those who work their asses of and probably their vacetion time too in order to promote this type of software.
it came natural to me that the peaple who run these sites such as Wincustomize dont make a hugh profit out of it and should be supported especially when the subscription is less then 20$.
putting software out for try is good : you bring your ideas , your talent and art out there for all to see (and yes - for promotion's too. its perfectly honest and welcomed).
those who demand freebee'z - they are the ones that probably never made something of their own and put it outthere for anyone to take.

in germany , the goverment decided to cut unemployment fee's (which stood at 61% of last paycheck and was undefnitely !!! , an early retirement if you want) , there was a big demonstration and one reporter asked the other : why is there no one on the opposing side ?. the otherone said - "are you crazy ??? they cant be here , its 9:00AM , everyone opposing are working !!!".

so to all you skinners/ developers , these demand mail's you get dont represent us all. we , the silent ones that read the blogs and buy products and enjoy and support the sites quietly , we do appreciate your work and do understand. i can see talent where it is and , hey - if i dont think a premium suite is worth the money - I DONT BUY IT. and that's it. after learning how much time and effort it took me to make a louzy folder icon , i can easley understand and sometimes get shocked that a premium suite like "Toon-XP" costs less then 9$.

hope to see a lot more in the future
The Ferret
on Aug 29, 2004
Love the article and also agree.
on Aug 29, 2004
This is completely right!!!!!! IF YOU DOWNELOAD SOMETHING FOR FREE AND YOU DON"T LIKE,!!!! THEN LEAVE!!!Yup, thats what i said!!! THESE POEPLE LET US TRY THIS WONDERFUL PROGRAM SO LEARN OR LEAVE! See ya.
on Aug 29, 2004
I have never understood why people complain when they get a service for free. They should just be glad folks like Brad do what they do, considering how a lot of blog sites now charge. JU lets people of all schools of thinking post whatever they like, and give them a forum for FREE.

Hell, Brad and i don't agree on much, but he allows me to post my thoughts and beliefs for the world to see unedited and unfiltered...Even if he doesn't like what i have to say....

So i say thanks for the ice cream...Now can i have another scoop?
on Aug 29, 2004
Ahhh... More self serving trip from froggy... But that's not important.... So do paying customers get evrything they want, and get to make demands? As I read it the thrust of your article is that non-paying users (since you don't believe they are a customer) are almost sub-human and they must walk a vey tight line... So if someone pays for OD do they get leverage? What if they have bought more than one product? And do you believe that philosphy should work everywhere i.e. if you go to a mechanic because they offer a free tire rotation should you get less service and attention then the guy who is paying ofr an oil change... Or better yet, what if you take your kid to the doctor and have an HMO plan (at $5 re-imbursement per visit you might as well be visiting the doc for free) and someone takes in their kid w/ private insurance ($70-$100 reimbursement for doc)? Is it o.k. for the doc o.k. to leave your kid to suffer while he sees heis private patients because heck by seeing your cheap HMO insured ass not only is he not making money but he is loosing it??? While I agree a MINORITY of users get bellicose regarding changes your attitude, "article", and general practices are pitiful... An no I didn't pay for OD... Because everytime a new version or product that comes out which makes me think it might be worth the $50.00 you guys put an opinion piece like this... Your software is good/intersting (certainly not a must have since it basically falls in the toy/entertainment category for me) but your company's attitude is deplorable...
on Aug 29, 2004
I also, couldn't agree more.

And I'm very glad you have written this article. It's something that many, many people need to read.
As a DJ for an internet-based radio station based in the world of an MMORPG, I know all about the pangs of dealing with people who assume your world revolves around their needs, involving a service you provide for them. None of our radio-based-organisation are paid for the hours they provide audio entertaintainment to the listening masses of said MMORPG(which can equal to almost 20 hours a week, standard). If anything, we pay fees to stay up and running.

Yet, still, we're faced with common criticism from time to time, as though our service has become a right.

I think one usual factor of "free stuff", whether it be a radio-service, a weekly blog, or even an art based website, is "Free" is highly taken for granted after a certain amount of exposure; this isn't always the case, but. It's as though it becomes so entwined in our lives(like the players of Anarchy Online and GridStream Productions), that we[for example] end up forgetting that it could "not be there" one day, essentially.. we form an 'option' into a need, then abuse that with griping or criticism when it doesn't necessarily satisfy us.
on Aug 29, 2004
I like to to this time to say thank you for writing this article, it is so true, I always tried to figure out what makes people think that what ever they can get for free, that they deserve to be treated like they actually paid for the free services, come on you freeloaders get a grip on reality. I commend and support you writing this article.
on Aug 29, 2004
I noticed this same pattern a few years back. The internet is making a whole bunch of spoiled people. Before the internet (and even at it's begining) shareware was the rule. It often came on discs with magazines or something and you could TRY software but you never got good stuff for free!

Now we have this whole Open Source software movement and users think free software means free as in free beer (no money) when actually it means free as in free speech (free use but not control, no money involved)

At the end of the day the internet is the real world. Nothing is truly free. Its just like at an ice cream shop. Sure you may get a free sample but if you don't like that than leave the store. If you like it buy it, then you can ask them to stock your favorite flavor more often. If you are not a customer you are not entitled to a voice.

Oh and about the greed thing, I have been accused of this same thing in my busiess as well. It makes me wich I could direct an electric show to the person who writes it. Unless you pay my bills, cloth and feed my kids don't lecture me a bout greed. I would like to see you are your parents go to work without pay!@!
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