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Painful to watch
Published on October 2, 2004 By Draginol In Politics

For me, watching Bush debate is a lot like watching my son play baseball. While I may root for him to do well, I feel helpless in being able to make him do well.

Like when my son is batting, I try to will it that he'll hit the ball. Similarly, while observing Bush, I try to will it that he'll nail a point.

So when Kerry says lamely, "I consider nuclear proliferation to greatest threat to our nation." I'm using all my mental energy to try to get Bush to say something like "Well Senator, I consider going after the blood thirsty terrorists who are trying to murder Americans to be our top priority."

Bush isn't as quick on his feet as Kerry.  Kerry, a former prosecutor, is in his own in having to put together a compelling argument on the fly.  Bush defeated Gore in the 2000 debates because Gore came across as a haughty lecturerer.  Kerry won't make that mistake.

One might argue that Bush lost the debate on style -- which is what really matters but won it in terms of substance. Bush's arguments are stronger IMO but he isn't able to put those arguments forward in a compelling way.

Kerry's Iraq position is incoherent. Idealogues on the left may be content to parrot the line "Kerry voted for the president to have authorization to use force so that he would have more leverage to get the UN to put those inspectors back." But any clear thinking American is not going to fall for that.  The US did not have 200,000 troops sitting in Kuwait as mere bargaining chips.  Kerry knew, as did every other senator know, that barring a miracle (i.e. complete capitulation by Saddam) that US troops would be invading Iraq before the hot weather returned (by March 2003 in other words).  To argue anything else is simply being naive at best or untruthful at worst.

But that's where being a good public speaker comes into play.  Kerry is able to put forth his disengenous position because Bush isn't able to put forward a simple and effective counterargument.

And those of us on the side lines can only look on helplessly. Just like I do when I watch my kid playing baseball. 


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on Oct 07, 2004
Despite differing on one or two 'red herring' or fringe issues they both have the same ideas with basically the same plans for all the main issues.


Granted but, they may go about those ideas differently. They may act upon those ideas differently. That would be a change for the better no?
Example: Iran

Bush: Invade cause "we have them almost surrounded already".
Kerry: Sanction the crap outta them till they bleed like Iraq did.
on Oct 07, 2004
Reply #61 By: RedneckHunter - 10/7/2004 10:24:09 AM
Despite differing on one or two 'red herring' or fringe issues they both have the same ideas with basically the same plans for all the main issues.


Granted but, they may go about those ideas differently. They may act upon those ideas differently. That would be a change for the better no?
Example: Iran

Bush: Invade cause "we have them almost surrounded already".
Kerry: Sanction the crap outta them till they bleed like Iraq did.


Sorry but if they already have nukes, sanctions will not work! The rest of the world will do the bleeding.
on Oct 07, 2004
GX,

I empathize, it's crap I'm voting Kerry this year, but I can't afford the possibility of Bush staying in. Perhaps in an election year where I can afford the luxury to vote third party, I will, as I don't believe a two party system works. I don't believe my vote is synonymous with stupidity or ignorance, but that line is coming from one who will vote for a candidate who currently has less than 1% of the vote according to most polls.
on Oct 07, 2004
Reply #63 By: Deference - 10/7/2004 3:12:26 PM
GX,

I empathize, it's crap I'm voting Kerry this year, but I can't afford the possibility of Bush staying in.


On this issue NEITHER side is any better than the other.
on Oct 07, 2004
I don't believe my vote is synonymous with stupidity or ignorance, but that line is coming from one who will vote for a candidate who currently has less than 1% of the vote according to most polls.


With Bush, Kerry tied, Badnarik could be 'kingmaker,' analysts say
Link to article

Nothing much else to add.

- GX

on Oct 07, 2004
Good stuff, and thanks for the help.
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