Bush finally wins a debate

Squeaks out Kerry

Published on October 13, 2004 By Draginol In Politics

Kerry seemed a bit off his game today and Bush seemed very much on his game. This time I give Bush the edge. He seemed relaxed, strong on the issues, and got all his points out. Kerry wasn't that bad but he was a lot more defensive than I would have thought.

I don't think it will make much difference though. Bush blew the first debate so badly when the audience was so big. The audience here was much smaller than it was in the first debate. Kerry also played a bit of dirty pool with the lesbian issue and Bush got that key 1990 Kerry vote on the first Gulf War.

Here is a recap of the debate scoring:

Debate #1:
Kerry 5
Bush 2

Debate #2:
Cheney 2
Edwards 1

Debate #3:
Kerry 5
Bush 4

Debate #4:
Kerry 3
Bush 5

Final Score:
Kerry: 14
Bush: 13

Comments (Page 5)

drmiler

on Oct 15, 2004

Reply #59 By: sandy2 - 10/15/2004 6:51:24 PM
The reason I commented Myrr is because electorial-vote doesn't do the debate polls. They never have.

False. I quote from the site electoral vote:

News from the Votemaster
Modern politics is (unfortunately) more about expectations than about reality. Consequently, Gallup ran a poll BEFORE the third debate asking who was going to win? The results: 54% expected Kerry to win, 36% expected Bush to win, 10% expected a tie.

Now for the actual results. After the debate, a Gallup poll showed Kerry to be the winner 52% to 39%, not far from expectations. A CBS poll of uncommitted voters after the debate showed that 39% thought Kerry had won and 25% thought Bush had won. An ABC News poll showed Kerry barely won, 42% to 41%. However, the ABC poll had 38% Republicans and 30% Democrats, so breaking even in a group skewed towards the GOP has to be considered a Kerry win. ARG didn't run a large-scale poll this time. Still, the clear conclusions: Kerry won the first and third debates; the second one was a tie. Cheney did better than his boss and won the VP debate.

Nope your false. Your own quote does you in. All they did was show other peoples polls. The polls you quoted have *nothing to do with electorial-vote. I stand by what I said. Electorial-vote doesn't do the debate polls. They never have.

sandy2

on Oct 16, 2004

Reply #47 By: sandy2 - 10/14/2004 5:04:55 PM
The major news organizations call this to kerry. See electoral-vote.com for more

Sandy you need to look again. Electorial-vote.com has Bush ahead of Kerry by 66 points! Thats as of 2 minutes ago.

I give up drmiller. If you look at my original post, I sated that the major news organizations called it to Kerry. I then refered you to the electoral-vote.com site if you did not believe me that they had in fact done this. You said Bush is up, I said I was refering to the debate and you continued to call me wrong. You sir are the one who was wrong regarding my original and subsequent posts.

drmiler

on Oct 16, 2004

Okay I'll admit I was wrong in the first place. But in reply #59 your the one who's incorrect. My quote to Myrrander said that electorial-vote didn't do debate polls and your reply said that, that was false. Which is incorrect. So to reply #59 *only* I'll stand by my guns "they don't do debate polls." All they do is show what the major pollsters say.

sandy2

on Oct 16, 2004

Ok, well I guess we misunderstood eachother in that case. As far as I am aware, electoral-vote.com does not do any of their own polls. They only display the results of other polls. In that case, you were right in reply #59 in assuming that they didn't create the polls, and I was right in considering "doing" the debate polls to mean the same thing as "doing" the election polls, which is to collect the data from pollsters.

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