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With Dell taking the Windows experience to the next level with the introduction of the Dell Dock, I've seen a lot of online buzz about it.  Most agree that the Dell Dock is really good but intermixed are a lot of Mac fans who use terms like "Mac rip off" or how it's a copy of the Mac dock.

imageMac zealots have a long and glorious history of retroactively claiming pre-existing concepts as being invented by Apple.  For example, the modern "widget" (end user created applets that use Javascript) was not invented by Apple.  They also didn't first appear in Konfabulator either. They appeared in Stardock DesktopX years earlier. Apple zealots usually counter by arguing that things like desktop accessories from 1981 "invented" the concept (as if the average user was going to whip out small assembly language programs).

imageI think most rational people agree that the modern widget is a mini application that can be created by end users that are tied together with a high level scripting language (i.e. Yahoo Widgets, Dashboard, Sidebar Gadgets, DesktopX).  And DesktopX borrowed the concept from IBM's worksplace shell which in turn was inspired by prior art as well.

But the controversy over widgets is nothing compared to the claim that Apple somehow invented the concept of docks.  Even allowing for the history of NeXT with its side dock, the dock concept is ancient.

 Stardock, for example, has been doing "docks" since 1994.  Object Desktop for OS/2 included things like Tab LaunchPad and Control Center. You don't see Stardock fans complaining that every sidebar is a "rip off" of Control Center. And Control Center certainly didn't invent the concept of a side-based bar or dock either.

You would be hard pressed to find many companies that have been continuously producing a dock and a sidebar as long as Stardock has -- 14 consecutive years of development. I think it's fair to say that we weren't "inspired" by an Apple OS that wouldn't exist for 7 more years from the time we started doing this sort of thing.

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Tab LaunchPad on OS/2 circa 1994

Stardock makes no claims of having invented the dock.  We called our first dock Tab LaunchPad because IBM itself had created a dock for OS/2 2.0:

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IBM OS/2 LaunchPad circa 1992

But let's say you're a true die-hard Steve Jobs zealot and want to argue that NeXT "invented" the dock. You'd still be wrong as docks were part of Acorn computers from the early 80s.  The point, of course, isn't who invented the dock, the argument of course is whether companies like Stardock (who wrote the Dell Dock) were somehow ripping off or stealing or what have you from the MacOS dock and I think you can see why this is such an obnoxious and offensive argument - we've been making docks since before Apple had figured out how to do preemptive multitasking.

They say a picture is worth a 1000 words.  Here is a picture of what the Macintosh looked like in 1996 (System 7.5) along with a picture of Stardock Object Desktop in 1996:

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Mac 1996 vs. Stardock Object Desktop 1996: Which desktop do you think more closely resembles today's modern desktop? Note that Object Desktop was written during the Windows 3.1 era.

Stardock doesn't run around claiming that it invented the modern desktop experience. We don't imply or assert that everyone else is "ripping us off". Some ideas are just obvious.

The Dell Dock represents the continuing evolution of the desktop experience. Like all improvements to the user experience, inspiration can be found everywhere. But when advocates of a company or an operating system try to lay exclusive claim to all such improvements, they diminish the hard work, innovation, and inventiveness by thousands of other people from around the world who often have worked in obscurity with little glory. It is bad enough that these innovators don't get credit they deserve, it's even worse when they are so often smeared as copying those who came after.

Other Pictures:

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Dell Dock

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Stardock ObjectDock

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Stardock ObjectDock Plus (4 different docks)

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Stardock Impulse Dock


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on Jul 26, 2008
me old mate TheGuyPC
 
on Jul 27, 2008
ObjectDock is kinda crap as compared to Apples's dock. I could count hundreds of OD crashes, and not even one crash of Mac OS for years


Over exaggerating there eh buddy?
Never had a crash with OD.
Maybe you are just too inept to handle a pc. Its for grown-ups.
Take care of your pc and it takes care of you
on Jul 27, 2008
ObjectDock is kinda crap as compared to Apples's dock. I could count hundreds of OD crashes,
Do you have the crash reports to back that statement up?I didn't think so.

Now, I could assemble PC from exactly the same components as Mac, and Windows with OD would still be crashing.
That tells me you know as much about building them as you do operating them.


Just my few cents.

There's your problem.You can't get a very good PC for less than a nickle.

on Jul 28, 2008
One has to wonder if Steve Jobs might've stolen some of Stardock's technology that me old mate TheGuyPC referred to in his "Joe User/Joke User" thread (wot I pirated) some time ago


Arg, she twere a fine ship. Sad to see her deep sixed.
on Jul 28, 2008
Arg, she twere a fine ship. Sad to see her deep sixed.


Nah, she be orright... just dry docked t' purge tha barnacles wot wos slowin' our voyage t' Stardock frum 'er bow.

Us'll 'ave ter refloat 'er soon tho... them Stardock code monkeys still 'aves Gorg in cooped up thair brig - pickin e's brains fer alien technolergy wot could improve thair political filters, they be - n' it be up t' us t' rescue tha poor sod afore 'em does 'im a cerebral mischief.
on Jul 29, 2008
^
Come again?
on Jul 29, 2008
arrr Cap'n, there be a stowaway aboard, arrr. Keel-haul the scurvy knave, arrr
on Jul 29, 2008
Come again?


Wot!! Again?? So soon?? I'll 'ave ye know that me peg leg don't allow I t' move that fast.

arrr Cap'n, there be a stowaway aboard, arrr. Keel-haul the scurvy knave, arrr


Me finks us'll tie this 'un t' tha mizzen 'til us needs a diversion... like fer when us 'aves t' swim ashore all covert like... an' us needs t' distract tha sharks.
on Jul 29, 2008
Come again?


Arrggg! Ken ya read simple Anglish? Me thinks da cap'n be gatherin' anuther crew to man the old GuyPC ship once it is sea worthy!
on Jul 29, 2008

I'm not seeing much difference between Apple zealots and Stardock zealots, both from this article and from the comments following.  And that's coming from someone who owns a Mac for his "real" work, but also paid for Object Desktop and ObjectDock Plus for his PC (and who absolutely loves his tabbed dock).

First, on the article...You took ONE post on Gizmodo and declared that Mac users were on the rampage over Dell's dock.  The article you cited doesn't even make bones about dock invention, just about look and feel.  But you did take that and turn it into a straw man you could take on in a lengthy, well-researched, and well-written article.  So...Brad, your article:  Good, your smearing of Mac users:  Bad.  And remember, if the author was a Mac-only user, he wouldn't really know about Stardock anyway - you make good products, but none of them for the Mac, darn you.

The thing is, while it is silly to insist that Apple invented a lot of features it's known for, their innovation was more in the design and refinement that they put into said features.  Sure, there were docks around before Mac OS X, and I sure wish I could switch docks without third-party shareware, but it's the look and feel, and some of the functionality, of the Mac OS X dock that people have wound up emulating.  Or are you going to insist that the design of ObjectDock, released after Mac OS X, wasn't influenced at all by the design of Apple's dock?  Or that Dell's effort, with its blue, shiny, reflective icons, doesn't immediately remind a person that it's the sort of look that is iconic of Aqua-like desktop themes for Windows and X Windows alike?

Give Apple its props - they have some great interface design.  No, they don't invent a lot of their innovations, but they do a good job of refining/stealing ideas, as evidenced by the way those refinements make their way into so many other people's efforts.

So really, hold off a bit on attacking Mac users as crazed zealots, especially when you have a blind following yourself.  I can't be the only Mac user you have as a customer, trying to make his time spent on Windows more comfortable.

on Jul 29, 2008
So really, hold off a bit on attacking Mac users as crazed zealots, especially when you have a blind following yourself. I can't be the only Mac user you have as a customer, trying to make his time spent on Windows more comfortable.


Burn the Heretic!

Oh wait, I am not a Mac or PC zealot. Damn.
on Jul 29, 2008
So really, hold off a bit on attacking Mac users as crazed zealots, especially when you have a blind following yourself. I can't be the only Mac user you have as a customer, trying to make his time spent on Windows more comfortable.Burn the Heretic!Oh wait, I am not a Mac or PC zealot. Damn.


LINUX FTW!!!!!

on Jul 29, 2008
So really, hold off a bit on attacking Mac users as crazed zealots,


I don't think Brad was saying ALL mac users are crazed zealots... just that some are and that they take their love of Macs/OS-X to the extreme with 'over-inflated' claims about the origins and development of the Mac/OS-X, while denigrating the rest... and calling them thieves, etc.

***can blame Mr Smug himself for that... and his smug 'denigrating MS/Windows' ads***
on Oct 12, 2008

Slashdot reports that Apple was awarded a patent for the magnifying dock. Is ObjectDock in trouble now?

And strange that it took about nine years to award this claim...

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