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Questions to conservatives
Published on October 19, 2004 By Draginol In Blogging

This is a response to the associated link. Was going to make it a response but the amount of editing it would take made it too time consuming. So I used Blog Navigator Pro to do it up in its built in blog editor.

Questions to conservatives:

Why is it that the right attacks anyone who questions the war in Iraq for not supporting our troops, yet impugns a decorated war veteran's integrity, including things like purple heart band-aids? Why is it members of the military tell me that no one but a soldier should have the right to say anything about the military, yet attack Kerry for speaking out against the war? He was a soldier, right?

I don't accept the premise of your question. Conservatives don't "attack anyone who questions the war in Iraq". But the reason why conservatives impugn Kerry's war record is because he has inflated it beyond recognition.

Ask most veterans who are not ideological about Kerry winning so many medals in 4 months and they're likely to tell you that something fishy is going on. Particularly since Kerry wasn't in intense combat.  And some of his purple hearts (2 of them) were band-aid level wounds.

My grandfather won a silver star in World War II.  To win it, he had to travel behind enemy lines for great lengths of time under a great deal of hostile fire to locate enemy positions and report them back to his commanders.  He was nominated by his commanding officer for his repeated bravery.

Kerry, by contrast, was not really ever shot at directly and nominated himself. Many veterans find that offensive.


Why is it that the party of "smaller government" supports a man who has increased the bureaucracy of the federal government more than anyone else? Why is it the party that derides democrats as spend happy liberals supports a man who has signed every spending bill put before him?

Lesser of two evils there. 


Why is it that when Bill Clinton started trying to do something about Afghanistan he was accused of "wagging the dog" to distract the media from Monica Lewinsky? Don't you think if the nation had rallied around Clinton then, more than just a few cruise missiles being fired could have happened?

Maybe because it happened to take place days after the Monica Lewinski hearing and was so obviously ineffective and half hearted. It looked as if it was designed to eat up a couple of news cycles.


Why is John Kerry derided as a flip flopper for his $87 million dollar gaffe, but Bush is considered a steadfast president despite having changed positions on: the Department of Homeland security, the 9/11 commission, allowing Condi Rice to testify before said commission, appointing an intelligence director, claiming he was against nation building in 2000, claiming he wouldn't dip into Social Security in 2000, etc? If you can point to these decisions and say that it was good that Bush changed his mind, then can't you say that at least some of the time it was okay for Senator Kerry to have changed his mind?

I don't accept the premise of your question. John Kerry isn't a flip flopper simply because of that. John Kerry is a flip flopper because he has a career long record of being a political opportunist. There are examples where in the span of hours he would tell one constinuent who supported the 1991 Gulf war that he was a strong supporter of that and then turn around and tell another constituent who opposed the war that he too opposed the war.

Moreover, Bush comes across as someone who became convinced of the need for Homeland security through reasoned arguments.  Kerry almost assuredly voted against the $87 billion because he was losing to Howard Dean at the time.  Kerry also was a strong supporter of the Patriot act...and then says he opposes it.  Kerry votes for no child left behind...and then opposes it.  The list goes on and on.  And the thing is, his position on a given issue will depend on who he is talking about.  I remember in one of the debates Kerry saying he was pro-life personally but pro-choice politically. Talk about wanting to have it both ways.  You either thing a fetus is a human being and hence abortion is a murder or you don't. I happen to not think first trimester abortion to be murder which is why I'm pro-choice.  If Kerry really thinks it's murder, as he implied, but is still pro-choice then that's pretty disgusting.



Why are mass graves in Iraq so important, but larger numbers of people killed in Sudan are less important? Can't you admit that Iraqi oil at least makes this human rights mission a bit more palatable?

I don't accept your premise. Conservatives have never claimed that people killed in Sudan ar eless important.  Iraqi oil only matters in that it provided Iraq with the financial means to take his brutality into the global arena. In addition, liberals like Sean Penn and Michael Moore have implied that Iraq was a wonderful country of love and sunshine before those beastly Americans can charging in.

The argument behind the war on Iraq was fairly straight forward: Iraq was a danger to the United States because Saddam was a very very bad man who was an enemy of the United States who either already had weapons of mass destruction that he coudl funnel to terrorists or had the means to make them and was merely waiting out the sanctions.  Time has shown that while he didn't have WMDs on hand, he was planning to wait out the sanctions and then reconstitute his program in rapid order.  Therefore, evidence that shows that Saddam was a very very bad man helps make the case that he had to be taken down. 

A very very bad man in Sudan is a tragedy. But he's a very poor bad man.  A very very bad man with lots of money and resources can do great harm to us here in the United States.


Comments
on Oct 19, 2004
Thanks for the responses, I hope that I get as good from the libs as I got from you.
on Oct 19, 2004
My grandfather won a silver star in World War II. To win it, he had to travel behind enemy lines for great lengths of time under a great deal of hostile fire to locate enemy positions and report them back to his commanders. He was nominated by his commanding officer for his repeated bravery.
Apples and Oranges to compare the intense heroics of WWII to that of the public relation subterfuge of Vietnam. Still, I agree with the tautological flavor.
on Oct 20, 2004
>Kerry saying he was pro-life personally but pro-choice politically. Talk about wanting to have it both ways. You either thing a fetus is a >human being and hence abortion is a murder or you don't.

I wasn’t aware Kerry felt this way, but I would applaud him for coming out and saying it. No, you do not have to think a foetus is a life or not. There are grey areas in many philosophical questions.

Australia has a Catholic Conservative Health Minister who has expressed dissatisfaction with being the head of a department that carries out abortions, yet he does not opppse it politically.
The thing about getting rid of abortion from a political stance is that you are governing for people who have a different religious persuasion to you, so banning abortion will cause major social problems, including backyard abortions. Though I am uncomfortable about what abortion is, I think it is preferable to backyard abortions. Also, despite my vegetarianism, I do not campaign for this to be incorporated into legislature, because it is my personal religious conviction. I do believe in campaigning for anit-animal cruelty laws, but that is because many conservatives also believe that cruelty should be avoided and are often simply unaware of what is happening
on Oct 20, 2004
Excellent blog entry Draginol.

Ive seen alot of these left vs right or right answer this or left answer that, blah blah blah blogs (Ive done similar)... I think someone needs to think through a little something about propoganda and blog about it from a neutral perspective. We all use propoganda to an extent. Understanding it better might help everyone take a clearer look at this Novembers choices.

Maybe. Maybe not.
on Oct 20, 2004
Even a husband can be pro-life and still not have the right to deny his wife an abortion if that is her wish. 
on Oct 21, 2004
What an amazing and logical blogger. Whatever you ask, "I don't accept your premise" is hs response. If he blinks hs eyes I know who he is! -
Dubya, the bubbly lover. We know why you go to sleep early !
on Oct 22, 2004
Conservative? erm it is cool to be conservative but if you are one then why support this president? I am a fiscally responsible conservative and more of one then Bush has been. He is the biggest spender in the history of this country. He has done more harm then good for this country. Heck we are less safe anyone can easily see this then we were before 911. I say everyone needs to wake up and see reality. Draginol is a great writer no matter if I disagree or not. Writing good articles does not mean it is correct however.

How about our Environment? Do any of you have a family? What about your kids future? Do you think Bush cares about them? He has rolled back all of the environmental laws that were put in place from 1968. How about this one little tidbit. If any company has extra parts per million of pollution left over in a given month or year, another company who has gone over the limit of polluting can buy the extra left over from the company who did not go over avoiding any fines. How about with his clear skies inititive where he claims they cleaned up the air by 25%? They took co2 and said well we breath is everyday how can it be considered a pollutant. This is where they got the 25% improvement and this is only one issue. I could list 100's of things that he has done wrong but I will not. No one seems to care how bad he is screwing things up you guys support him no matter how much of a screw up he is. No offense but I do not vote or support a PARTY I look at the person.

By the way John Kerry record is rock solid and I read these lies about him and I laugh to myself. He did speak out against the war and I think he did so with honor. He said things that were taken out of context, but he did not say anything that was coming from him and his experience (aside from the burning out of villages he admitted to) everything he said to congress was told to him by other GI's. One more thing, his voting record while being in government is another comical thing. I went back and searched again through his records trying to see where he voted against America. Funny thing, every time he voted against defensive bills or intelligence issues he was joining the Republicans and not acting on his own with his party that is how much the issue is being stretched truth wise. The man has a great record and why the GOP can do nothing but beat him up for it. Twisting the facts about a solid opponent is a classic political tactic to tear down the other side. Today modern world I would think the people would be smarter then this. I am still hoping that on Nov. 2nd they will be enlightened and vote for the right man. This is a history breaking election cycle I have never seen so many lies being said by one party in my entire 50 years of life.