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Published on October 14, 2008 By Draginol In Politics

I really can't wait until this election comes and GOES.

I'm a conservative and I make no bones about it. I keep up on politics and foreign affairs as a hobby all the time. But every 4 years, suddenly lay people who barely pay attention suddenly become political experts ready to insult the intelligence of those who disagree with them.

It's particularly annoying reading Digg, a site I usually like but is populated by left-wingers who, if asked, say that Digg is dominated by left-wingers because Digg attracts intelligent people and intelligent people tend to be liberal (despite ample evidence to the contrary gathered over the years but I digress).

I just want to be able to read tech news or whatever without having some arm-chair political analysis by "some guy" who is clueless about economics or foreign policy.

If people hold different political philosophies and opinions from you, it's not because they're necessarily ignorant or racist or stupid. 

Sometimes people can look at the same data and come to a different conclusion. A little respect for other people's intelligence can go a long way.

Nothing bugs me more than when people insist that their opinions are the same as facts.

As someone who wouldn't be caught dead voting for either Obama or McCain, I am just shocked at the patronizing and arrogance directed towards other individuals purely because their political philosophies are different.

I won't vote for McCain because I don't like his political positions. But I certainly think he's "worthy" of leading the country. Similarly, while I won't vote for Obama, I don't think he's some sort of terrorist. But I think there's plenty of legitimate concern that the man has surrounded himself by people (Ayers, Wright, etc.) who overtly hate our society as it is and whose motto is "change" without defining very explicitly what he hopes to change. It certainly makes me nervous.

But I think both people are decent people and that people support these men not out of ignorance but because they believe that these men represent the way they think the United States should be administered.

If you're for Obama, you probably are unhappy with Bush's foreign policy decisions, you believe that it isn't fair that some people make so much more money than other people, and think that the federal government should ensure a basic standard of living for its citizens.

If you're for McCain, you probably support, to a certain degree, Bush's foreign policy including the invasion of Iraq. You probably believe that it is not the government's business how much people make and that generally, the federal government should try not to be involved in people's daily lives.

I hold the latter position but won't support McCain because he doesn't really have a political ideology other than getting elected (Campaign Finance Reform, poor undertanding of economics, etc.). He might make a good secretary of defense but not a very good President.

But nothing pisses me off more than seeing people showing such naked intolerance for the opinions of other individuals. Thinking Obama would be a terrible President does not make someone ignorant or evil or stupid or racist.


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on Oct 14, 2008

You ain't the only one feeling this way brother Draginol.  I just want it over, though I really wish there was a real, viable, alternative that I could vote for instead of either of the two major party candidates.

Where the hell is Ross Perot when you need him and his charts talkin' about the economy and how screwed up the deficit is?!?

Bleh.

on Oct 14, 2008

I say we bring back Reagan and put him into office.

on Oct 14, 2008

I stopped reading the comments on digg because of all the condescending leftists and atheists.  I'm fine with people that have both beliefs and have friends with both beliefs, but the ones on digg are so condescending. 

-rattasak

on Oct 14, 2008

You have not lived until you are condescended to by an a twenty-something-never-had-a-job-in-her-life who swears only ignorant, toothless hilljacks are voting for McCain and Palin.

It is an experience.

on Oct 15, 2008

I personnally say your electoral campaigns are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too long.

on Oct 15, 2008

Yeah, this is the worst election cycle I can remember.  It's really tough being a conservative on the far-left web, especially when these people have no tolerance for anyonce who disagrees with them.

on Oct 15, 2008

And your comment about Digg reminded me of this thread.

http://digg.com/political_opinion/WSJ.com_-_Opinion%3A_Obama_s_95_Illusion

Read the comments and see how screwed we are.

on Oct 15, 2008

But nothing pisses me off more than seeing people showing such naked intolerance for the opinions of other individuals. Thinking Obama would be a terrible President does not make someone ignorant or evil or stupid or racist.

It always comes down to the question of what one's reasons can be for disagreeing with Obama.

Liberals rule out that the disagreement can have anything to do with knowledge of the issues. Hence the reasons must be either hatred for all Democrats or racism.

I disagree with Obama on many, many subjects. Plus I find his attitude towards Hillary insulting and I have a problem with the people he associates with. I would neither vote for a white man who associates with white supremacists nor for a black man who associates with the groups Obama associates/associated with.

 

Here's a list of American politicians I support and American politicians I don't support. See if you can make out what the common denominators are:

 

SUPPORT

George W. Bush

Bill Clinton

Hillary Clinton

Condi Rice

Colin Powell

Joe Liebermann

John McCain

Al Gore (in the 90s)

Ronald Reagan

 

NO SUPPORT

John Kerry

Al Gore (since 2002)

Barack Obama

Nancy Pelosi

Ron Paul

David Duke

Robert Byrd

Jimmy Carter

 

Notice that Sarah Palin is not on either list. I think she is too inexperienced for high office. But that doesn't make her a NO SUPPORT.

 

The common denominators that I use are those:

1. Anyone officially dumber than George W. Bush is NO SUPPORT (John Kerry).

2. Accept a Nobel Peace price even though you haven't done anything for peace and you are a NO SUPPORT (Gore, Carter). Take credit for another person's efforts and fraternise with the murderers of that person and you are a double NO SUPPORT (Carter).

3. Associate with white or black supremacists or the KKK and you are a NO SUPPORT (Byrd, Obama, Duke, Paul).

4. Fight communism or fascism and you are SUPPORT (Reagan, Clinton, Bush).

5. Defend Israel and/or other minorities in the middle east and you are a SUPPORT.

 

Plus I tend to prefer politicians who go to church/mosque/synagogue over politicians who don't and I prefer politicians who make an effort to learn about other religions/cultures over politicians that don't. Colin Powell and George W. Bush earned points for the second criterium.

 

on Oct 15, 2008

But nothing pisses me off more than seeing people showing such naked intolerance for the opinions of other individuals.

I think they use their intolerance to cover their own ignorance and stupidity.

Thinking Obama would be a terrible President does not make someone ignorant or evil or stupid or racist.

See comment above.  When you have no facts and arguments to support your feelings, you do tend to get hostile and vindictive - like a cornered animal.

on Oct 15, 2008

I personnally say your electoral campaigns are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too long.

yes they are.

on Oct 15, 2008

coderunner82


I stopped reading the comments on digg because of all the condescending leftists and atheists.  I'm fine with people that have both beliefs and have friends with both beliefs, but the ones on digg are so condescending. 
-rattasak

I hate that association of atheism and liberalism. As an atheist conservative I feel as if I am told that my moral beleifs (conservative) are somehow contradictory to my religious ones (atheism). Even though they are not.

on Oct 15, 2008

I hate that association of atheism and liberalism. As an atheist conservative I feel as if I am told that my moral beleifs (conservative) are somehow contradictory to my religious ones (atheism). Even though they are not.

I know how you feel. I am not an atheist but I am also not religious. I have been called a "fanatical Jew" because I can read Hebrew and an atheist because I understand evolution.

 

on Oct 15, 2008

heh... this reminds me my forays into tech forums... I keep count of how often I am accused of being a fanboi... for each side (intel vs AMD, nvidia vs ATI, etc.. I get accused of being a fanboi or even a paid operative of BOTH sides all the time)

on Oct 15, 2008

taltamir


I hate that association of atheism and liberalism. As an atheist conservative I feel as if I am told that my moral beleifs (conservative) are somehow contradictory to my religious ones (atheism). Even though they are not.

 

You misunderstand me.  I was not grouping them together.  I mean that both groups (separately) on digg are very condescending.

on Oct 15, 2008

That is true.

And don't worry about it, while you were not doing so, it is actually many atheists and liberals who make that connection, as if there is some sort of sacred alliance and that being one and not the other is some sort of betrayel.

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