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Published on March 31, 2010 By Draginol In Politics

One of my big frustrations with the environmentalist community (that I like to think I’m part of) is jus how ideological they are.

Today’s big hub-bug on TreeHugger.com is that apparently Sarah Palin is hosting a show on TLC about Alaska’s natural wonders.

Personally, I don’t care much for Palin one way or the other. I think there’s much ado about nothing with regards to her. She’s a conservative politician.

But the Treehuggers are absolutely going bonkers about it because she supports hunting (and in particular, killing wolves), drilling in ANWR.  But let’s face it, when it comes to environmentalism, most people, including environmentalists are only “green” when it’s really convenient for them.

Here’s what I wrote:

The hatred towards Palin is breathtaking.


I don't really care about her one way or the other. But the hypocrisy in this thread is just astounding.
Reading (http://www.grizzlybay.org/SarahPalinInfoPage.htm) she's evil because essentially she favors hunting and building in the ANWR.

Meanwhile, I suspect most Americans when confronted with animals they consider "pests" -- even if they're mammals -- routinely kill them.

Sure, it's easy to feel about for wolves now that they're all dead where we live. Just like it's easy to feel good about opposing ANWR while most people live in suburban sprawl in the lower 48 that wiped out a wetland or woodland.

Some of you might really benefit from talking to actual real human beings to have to deal with actual real wolves and hear their perspective. I know I've met plenty of vegans who laughed at the lengths I've gone to in order to capture mice in our house alive to take them out to a distant field to let go rather than "just killing them".

There are also plenty of posts here supporting the wholesale destruction of vast amounts of untouched ecosystem to build solar farms and what not.

I'm just really disappointed at how quickly our environmental principles get flushed in favor of political ideology. If Discovery thinks more people will watch the show because Palin is hosting, then I think that's a great way to help educate people to some of the natural wonders that are out there.

You can see the full thread here.


Comments
on Apr 01, 2010

I feel this same way about fair weather feminists and again it was Sarah Palin that brought the issue up.  A feminist is supposed to celebrate a woman's success and achievement apparently unless that woman is Sarah Palin. 

on Apr 01, 2010

I killed a copperhead once.

But I also agree with your point.  Several years ago, a woman jogger was killed by a mother cougar in California.  They got the cougar.  But then the donations starting pouring in - for the Cougar!  2 children had lost their mother to a wild animal and the eco nuts were more concerned about what would happen to some baby cougars!  That is just so wrong on so many levels.

perhaps they should stop being hypocritical and being more exemplary of their beliefs.  Sacrafice themselves for a hungry wolf today.  The world would be better off since the wolf would no longer be starving, right?

on Apr 01, 2010

I'm just really disappointed at how quickly our environmental principles get flushed in favor of political ideology.

My first experience with politics was in 1989, when I was twelve years old. The "Alternative List" (Green party) of Berlin won so many votes that they were able to elect, together with the Social Democrats, a new "Senate" (the executive in German city state is called "Senate") of Social Democrats and Greens who then quickly introduced a new pricing scheme for the public transport system.

It was fantastic. Within a year the formerly dismissed public transport system became the most loved institution in the city and the streets did indeed free up and the scheme completely and utterly worked. It was green politics well done and it was politics well done.

A year later, when Berlin was annexed into Germany, new elections replaced that administration. This mainly happened because East-Berliners, now part of the electorate, voted mainly between conservative (the majority) and socialist (not Social Democratic, the minority).

I remained a fan of the Greens for quite a while but was constantly annoyed by how little attention they paid to actual environmentalism (their sole obsession was with making nuclear power plants illegal and whether that is really environmentalism is quite debateable) and how much attention they paid to everything else.

They wanted to be pacifists, socialists, progressive, democratic, all sorts of things that had nothing to do with environmentalism.

 

If Discovery thinks more people will watch the show because Palin is hosting, then I think that's a great way to help educate people to some of the natural wonders that are out there.

Yes, I agree. Do people usually care about the political views of television show presenters?

 

I feel this same way about fair weather feminists and again it was Sarah Palin that brought the issue up.  A feminist is supposed to celebrate a woman's success and achievement apparently unless that woman is Sarah Palin.

Indeed.

 

on Apr 01, 2010

Like the celebs who take their private jet to protest against drilling   I would say that Native Americans are environmentalits and they hunt.  Ideology gets in the way of reality all the time.

on Apr 01, 2010

I would say that Native Americans are environmentalits and they hunt.

That sounds like a campaign slogan!  One the NRA would probably love to run.

on Apr 01, 2010

Dr Guy

I would say that Native Americans are environmentalits and they hunt.


That sounds like a campaign slogan!  One the NRA would probably love to run.

Haven't you heard? You can't use "target", "battleground", or "aiming" those words seem to scare the poor left to death all or a sudden. Now imagine how upset they would be if you used "hunting" in a sentence? It would all be code for "Hunting down a black president by angry white racists". Poor Nancy would be more fightened than she was in the late 70's!

on Apr 01, 2010

Gotta love hypocrisy. It's like blood, it flows thur every person.

on Apr 02, 2010

I would say that Native Americans are environmentalits and they hunt.  Ideology gets in the way of reality all the time.

Hunting per se is not anti-environment. In fact the balance of nature expects all the predators to hunt a bit, including humans.

The problem with hunting is the sheer number of humans who could potentially do it.

But I don't see a problem with government-licenced and controlled hunting and that's what people like Sarah Palin do.

(Says I who cannot hunt anyway.)

 

on Apr 02, 2010

Nitro Cruiser
Haven't you heard? You can't use "target", "battleground", or "aiming" those words seem to scare the poor left to death all or a sudden. Now imagine how upset they would be if you used "hunting" in a sentence? It would all be code for "Hunting down a black president by angry white racists". Poor Nancy would be more fightened than she was in the late 70's!

Indeed.  Instead of demonstrating that America is in a post racist period, this administration seems to be adding words to the banned list faster than Biden goofs!  Everytime we turn around, there is another "code word" used by a racist.  At this rate by the time Obama is out of office, we will be relegated to grunts and wheezes to communicate.