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Published on November 17, 2010 By Draginol In PC Gaming

Got a lot of good stuff going on this week in terms of development. But it’s also a very stressful time as we watch retailer after retailer tell us that they’re eliminating much of their PC gaming space starting 1Q2011.  I wish the reason was because everything’s moving to digital. But as much as Steam and Impulse and the others have grown this past year, the real issue is the continuing migration of users to other platforms followed by the publishers.

This is going to put further pressure on the PC game industry to evolve or die.


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on Nov 26, 2010

Plus, while consoles developers tend not to be any smarter than "let's make a game where we shoot stuff!!!! Preferably foreigners!" and "let's not be sexist, put a woman partner with the hero. But give her as little clothing as possible.", the PC crowd seems to be "what ways can we stop our customers using our products this year?" and, of course:

Person 1: "So, digital download, that means we don't have to pay to make physicals discs, don't have to deliver to all the other shops"

Person 2: "You know what that means, don't you?"

Person 3: "We can lower the price significantly?"

Person 2: "..."

Person 1: "..."

Person 1, 2 & 3: "...LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!"

Person 1: "Yeah, that was funny"

on Nov 26, 2010

Ozzy38
Plus, while consoles developers tend not to be any smarter than "let's make a game where we shoot stuff!!!! Preferably foreigners!" and "let's not be sexist, put a woman partner with the hero. But give her as little clothing as possible.", the PC crowd seems to be "what ways can we stop our customers using our products this year?" and, of course:

Person 1: "So, digital download, that means we don't have to pay to make physicals discs, don't have to deliver to all the other shops"

Person 2: "You know what that means, don't you?"

Person 3: "We can lower the price significantly?"

Person 2: "..."

Person 1: "..."

Person 1, 2 & 3: "...LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!"

Person 1: "Yeah, that was funny"

Well the problem is that they have to charge the same price for both their digital games and their retail copies. Games that don't have retail copies do in fact often lower their price significantly.

on Nov 26, 2010

There may be PC gaming's lifeline right there:   in the economics.   PC games are downloadable and that makes them cheaper.   Console games are getting more expensive; no doubt about that.   The free market will establish an equilibrium at some point, and PC will still be in the game.    Of course, consoles will see that and start to offer download options, but they still have to advertise, and for that you need a web browser.   And managing disk space is not exactly one of a console's strengths.

on Nov 26, 2010

tetleytea
There may be PC gaming's lifeline right there:   in the economics.   PC games are downloadable and that makes them cheaper.   Console games are getting more expensive; no doubt about that.   The free market will establish an equilibrium at some point, and PC will still be in the game.    Of course, consoles will see that and start to offer download options, but they still have to advertise, and for that you need a web browser.   And managing disk space is not exactly one of a console's strengths.

As long as Ebay and used game stores are legal, console games could have an RRP of the equal of £60 nowadays and we'd still be paying 50p - £20.

on Nov 27, 2010

uga-bugga
No one is making anything new.  WoW1, WoW2, Wow3, WoW4.  Sim1, Sim2, Sim3, Sim4.  FFI, FFII, FFII...FFIIX.  FPS's 10 years ago are the same.  RTS's 10 years ago are the same.  Dungeon crawlers - same.  Hey!  How about those environmental effects promised to be cutting edge 15 years ago with Dungeon Keepers?  Some guy got bored and made Minecraft and needs some help because the BIGBOY UNNAMED DISTRIBUTORS are just doing cut/paste and hope that no one notices.  How many pigs can you kill so you can pvp (Make love not WarCraft)?  How many games of Madden can you play?  Let's add all the bugs they don't want to fix like ninja looting, Windows 7 has a games tab that says it keeps track of game revision and patches and doesn't.  Alot of games today, they don't want to hire artists, writers, can cinamatographers so they can pocket the difference, and there is no campage, story, lore.

In short, nothing new here.  Nothing to buy.  So...nothing on the shelf.  Blame hackers/priates.  Blame funky people. 

 

When you say "the same" you just mean that they share the same core design. That you think RTSs made 10 years ago and those that got released this year are the same just shows that you don't understand the progression of games'n'gameplay but it also gives people the impression that you're just after new, cool things. That makes you a casual gamer that would like Kinect, Playstation Move and such gimmicks.

on Nov 27, 2010

Campaigner

That makes you a casual gamer that would like Kinect, Playstation Move and such gimmicks.

I am not a casual gamer, and I love Kinect.

on Nov 27, 2010

Nesrie

Quoting MOIISKA, reply 40Things change. With the power of hand heald devices constantly growing, the table top PC market is dying and the laptop market has to keep up or die as well.

In what world are the games for notebooks different than desktops? I mean sure you can scale down some games to get them to run on weak mobile gpus... but they're the same games. But hey, I know you folks have been beating death drums for PC for decades, keep up the "good" work.
Portability. Plain and simple. With a tower p.c. you are tied down to a single location. It's a trade off between the power of a stationary gaming machine and a portable laptop.  Something has to give, at least the the p.c. market. 

on Nov 27, 2010

MOIISKA

Portability. Plain and simple. With a tower p.c. you are tied down to a single location. It's a trade off between the power of a stationary gaming machine and a portable laptop.  Something has to give, at least the the p.c. market. 

Nothing really has to give at all.  There are games made all the time that work on integrated graphics and games made all the time that require a beefier machine.  Developers target what they want to target, as they always have.

on Nov 27, 2010

MOIISKA



Quoting Nesrie,
reply 41

Quoting MOIISKA, reply 40Things change. With the power of hand heald devices constantly growing, the table top PC market is dying and the laptop market has to keep up or die as well.

In what world are the games for notebooks different than desktops? I mean sure you can scale down some games to get them to run on weak mobile gpus... but they're the same games. But hey, I know you folks have been beating death drums for PC for decades, keep up the "good" work.Portability. Plain and simple. With a tower p.c. you are tied down to a single location. It's a trade off between the power of a stationary gaming machine and a portable laptop.  Something has to give, at least the the p.c. market. 

You are talking hardware, and I am talking software. Right now, there is almost no difference between the games that are played on notebooks and the games that are played on desktops. That's why "gaming" notebooks are expensive and trying their best to match desktop abilities while keeping them portable. That's plain and simple too. Plain and simple, portability has nothing to do with it. If i want to play Civilizatoin V on my notebook or Civilization V on my desktop, Civilization V is no more portable for one or the other, but can scale down certain qualities to fit less powerful components. This trade off you speak of is just a myth, a myth that isn't even original and naysayers have been beating their drums for the better part of a couple of decades now with the same mantra.

on Nov 27, 2010

Nesrie

Quoting Campaigner, reply 50

 

So todays kids are just too damn stupid or lazy to be able to use computers....


Whenever I see a statement like this, I want to go find a cane for someone or give them a number that says they can get a scooter for all those medicare folks. Seriously though, if you can't make a point without trying to categorize a bunch of people, most of whom are not actually kids, check the average age of gamers again, then I would say your point started off too weak to begin with.

 

What does the underlined part mean?

 

I was at GameStop when Modern Warfare II was new and there were mothers with their spoiled kids that wanted MW II for the CONSOLES!

I just wanted to tell them to get computers but then again computers aren't <insert disc'n'play>....

 

8 years ago, PC Gamer or was it SuperPlay said the average gamerage was 24. I was surprised

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