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What are the causes?
Published on November 12, 2003 By Draginol In Politics

Liberal bias in the media is pretty established at this point. Established in the sense that any reasonable person who has put any significant effort into looking into the issue will have come to that conclusion. The main deniers of such bias come, naturally, from liberals. Debating whether there is liberal media bias, for me, is like debating evolution vs. creationism. I'm not going to waste my time debating whether evolution is a fact or not and I'm not going to debate whether liberal media bias is a fact or not. I'll leave that to others who have more time on their hands.

For one thing, the problem with proving liberal media bias is the reliance on statistics on what is covered. There is no quick way to do it. Just as Creationists can pop up a dozen websites "proving" he bible's accuracy, liberals can pop up websites that argue there is no liberal bias or more amusingly, websites that show a conservative in the media.  I happen to believe that most liberals can be convinced of a liberal bias. But to do that, some basic ground rules have to be provided:

1) It's liberal media bias. Not Democratic Party bias. The media is just as likely to fry a Democrat as a Republican. Though I suspect that they relish frying the Republican and the threshold of what gets reported may be a bit different.

2) Liberal bias has to do with social values. Not political ones. Those values specifically revolve around social justice, racism, affirmative action, abortion rights, gun control, the military, gay rights.

3) And the clincher: Liberal bias is unintentional. It is not a conspiracy. It is largely unconscious. It is the result of liberals believing that they are not liberal (or not very). That their views are mainstream. In fact, not only are their views mainstream but they honestly believe that conservative views are fringe. Held by only a tiny percentage of right wing extremists whose views don't warrant coverage because so few people hold those views in their mind.

Here's a clue though for liberals: Most conservatives don't believe the government should be involved in social justice, solving "racism", promoting affirmative action, providing federal rules on abortion (let alone by a court), providing gun control or making special laws for different lifestyles. And about half the population feels this way. Not a tiny "fringe". HALF.

It is item #3 that Bernard Goldberg's new book, "Arrogance - Rescuing America from the Media Elite" deals with. Rather than argue that liberal bias is the result of liberals trying to force their agenda down our throats, it is the result of liberals thinking that their agenda is already shared by the majority of people. With one exception: The New York Times which has spent a great deal of effort these past 3 years forcing its politically correct agenda down our throats.

Liberals in the media tend to think that people who think that assault rifles should be legal are just a bunch of NRA crazies. In fact, a large percentage of Americans, myself included (and I don't even own a gun), believe that.  My writings on my blog here would probably be considered to be "far right" by the liberal media even though my opinions and values are not just shared by a large percentage of Americans but that I am actually to the left of a sizeable percentage because I'm pro-choice, pro gay civil unions, and favor a progressive tax code.

Liberals tend to simply see their views as being more civilized, more sophisticated, more thought out. Conservatives, by contrast, are a bunch of barbarous red necks with Confederate flags on their pickups waiting to lynch some poor African American -- at best. At worst, conservatives are a fringe of fascist rich people who got there by stepping on the hopes and dreams of everyone else.

What humane person can possibly be against affirmative action? Only racists are against that think liberals unconsciously.  Being against gay marriage is just simple bigotry by religious zealots. Pro-Lifers are a bunch of hypocritical nuts.  People who favor the war on Iraq are just stooges of right wing propaganda (particularly Fox News no doubt).  Liberals are "progressives" (think the media would use "progressive" or "visionary" for conservatives? I somehow doubt it). Conservatives are described as "far right", "right wing extremsists", "fascist", "right wing nut", and worse depending on whether it's on camera or off camera.

And what happens is that liberals tend to think that only a tiny fringe element of society believes what conservatives believe. So why give coverage to something only a few people believe? After all, everyone they know has the same opinions they do. They may not even know a single person who doesn't have the same opinions on these issues. So they conclude (wrongly) that those who hold conservative values are actually on the fringes of society. Either greedy rich bastards or uneducated red necks in the sticks who probably can't ready anyway so why bother writing about their point of view anyway?

Michael Moore actually has put this view quite succinctly. He truly believes that most Americans have the liberal views he does. That Republicans are supported by a confederacy of fringe groups that band together. But each fringe group is made up of only a tiny number of largely ignorant hate-filled zealots who are statistically irrelevant.

As a result, when deciding what to cover on TV or in the news, it comes down to focusing on things that they believe the majority of their readers or viewers think worth hearing about. And since they think their viewers hold the same beliefs they do, they pick the things they're interested in covering and exclude the things they think are unworthy.

And that is what I think is the basis of the liberal media bias in America.

 


Comments
on Nov 12, 2003
...I just stumbled on in here. Interesting. You say, "[liberal] values specifically revolve around social justice, racism, affirmative action, abortion rights, gun control, the military, gay rights." and go on to say, " I'm pro-choice, pro gay civil unions, and favor a progressive tax code." Your values don't appear to differ much from the liberals'. You also seem to wish the media called conservatives, "progressives." Sorry, but progressive (embracing change) is about the opposite of conservative (sticking with the current). Conservativism has brought us gems like the Nazis, Creationists, George Bush, and Godhatesfags.com - all extremists, I'll grant you, but the extreme *left* is sortof militant pasifism. The more moderate liberals are pasifists because they don't like the big pile of innocent bodies wars and guns generally generate. Yes, they are selfishly scared it could happen to them, but they certainly wish it wouldn't happen to other people either, because the misery it'll cause their families for years is not a pleasant thing to experience. So the liberal camp, at least from the outside, looks a lot more friendly to me.

You're undoubtedly correct that your media has liberal bias. Occasionally. Except. Your media worships your president. World issues are sidelined. Everything is privately owned and advertising-sponsored. Patriotism is *always* the name of the game. That's just the news. You have *giant companies* owning *huge several-hundred-station radio networks* which broadcast views only just left of naziism 24-7.
You'll find story-driven programmes are often written by liberals - not to stereotype, but creative people who make art in some form or another are often liberal.

Changing topic: As an outsider looking in, it's plainly obvious why guns (particularly large, automatic ones) shouldn't be legal: They terrify me for what they can do, and people don't, and shouldn't have the right to handle that sort of life-or-death-for-the-masses-at-the-flick-of-a-switch power. If your government suddenly became tyrranical (presumably this is the reason you're still all allowed to carry guns), in the face of today's military technology, no-one taking on the government would stand a chance, gun or no gun. Is this why you need bigger guns? Are you looking for some sort of apocalyptic showdown? Wouldn't it be better if *everyone* had smaller guns / no guns at all, and that way the tyrranical gov't could be removed without everyone dying?

The *thing* most Americans seem to have about owning a gun is being able to protect their family when some kerazy with a gun comes knocking. That, and having a shiny instrument of power on the shelf. For me, the good feeling you get when looking at your shiny instrument of death-dealing power is *vastly* over-counter-balanced by the fact that guns regularly lead to the deaths of lots and lots of people, which isn't a good thing. Working backwards from 'it's not a good thing for lots and lots of people to die unnaturally', and dismissing the good, powerful feeling as shallow and rather cowardly, one is left with the 'I'll be able to defend my family when...' - but if the kerazy at the door doesn't have a gun - if everyone stopped making the things and they were all withdrawn, then there'd be nothing to threaten your family, would there?

Only a tiny element of the American populace may be liberal. But isn't a liberal state the ideal to aim for?
on Nov 12, 2003
Draginol has posted yet another piece of propaganda disinformation worthy of Dr. Goebbels.....................................

Pax Americanus is far more dangerous! I use quotes to make my points. Look them up yourself and decide if I state them true and in context...................................

"The battle for the world is the battle for definitions." -Thomas Szasz (1920- ) Author, Professor

Take the test on this site to see what your politics really are:..............................


"Our lack of constant awareness has also permitted us to accept definitions of freedom that are not necessarily consistent with the actuality of being free. Because we have learned to confuse the word with the reality the word seeks to describe, our vocabulary has become riddled with distorted and contradictory meanings smuggled into the language." -Butler D. Shaffer- Calculated Chaos, 1985

"Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you." – Pericles -

"The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." -Plato-

"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time." – Attributed to Abraham Lincoln –

As for which “political party” to back: who cares about the AMERICAN populace as a whole? Rich AND impoverished, “Investment Class” AND “servile class”, healthy OR sick, young AND old, citizen AND non-citizen? What is the greatest good? Who has caveat emptor as a regulatory philosophy?............................................

"Of two evils we must always choose the least." -Thomas a Kempis- (1380 - 1471)

"When you have no basis for argument, abuse the plaintiff." -Marcus Tullius Cicero (106-43 B.C.)

Which party campaigns on hot button issues like abortion, prayer in schools, flag amendments verses “boring issues” like privatization and the end of public commons? What party pushes de-regulation, tax breaks, big business consolidation, “Free” trade and “Fast” track, ignoring the toll on the poor and middleclass? Who talks about energy policy but refuses to stop the Enron trading practices, or give equal tax breaks to the alternate energy production. Who fails to mention flywheel technology, wave power, geo-thermal, fuel cell, et al...............................................

"Avoid any specific discussion of public policy at public meetings." -Quintus Tullius Cicero (c.102-43 B.C.)

"Not to be, but to seem, virtuous - it is a formula whose utility we all discovered in the nursery." -
-- C. S. Lewis -

"If there is something to pardon in everything, there is also something to condemn." -Friedrich Nietzsche, The Will to Power, 1888

Listening to the corporate generated political propaganda reminds me of Orwell’s “Ministry of Truth” (1984).

Propaganda does not deceive people; it merely helps them to deceive themselves. Eric Hoffer (1902 - 1983)

"If large numbers of people believe in freedom of speech, there will be freedom of speech even if the law forbids it. But if public opinion is sluggish, inconvenient minorities will be persecuted, even if laws exist to protect them." George Orwell [Eric Arthur Blair] (1903-1950) British author

Yes “it’s working”, poisoning the minds too lazy to read and periodically examine their own beliefs and the basis of those viewpoints................................................

"The ruling class has the schools and press under its thumb. This enables it to sway the emotions of the masses." -Albert Einstein-

If you believe everything you read, better not read. -Japanese Proverb

The plutocrats sure get their money’s worth with simple minds, unwilling to think for themselves, choosing to believe meaningless “Liberal” or “Conservative" labels - whatever THOSE terms are suppose to mean). Constitutional liberals, fiscal liberals or just plain social liberals?..................................................

"There are no facts, only interpretations." -Friedrich Nietzsche-

Fox? CNN? CBS? NBC? CNBC? Your local Pravda? LOL Corporate propaganda outlets; exercises in Neilson ratings, advertising, and damage control.........................

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli-

"The sooner we all learn to make a decision between disapproval and censorship, the better off society will be...Censorship cannot get at the real evil, and it is an evil in itself." -Granville Hicks- (1901-1982)

While the Democrats and Republicans slug it out in mainstream corporate media over “social conservatism” the Multinational Globalists continue their relentless pursuit of world domination...........................................

"The American feels too rich in his opportunities for free expression that he often no longer knows what he is free from. Neither does he know where he is not free; he does not recognize his native autocrats when he sees them." -Erik H. Erikson-

-I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country.... Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed. -Abraham Lincoln

We’re not to question this president and his administration?!? That it’s Bush Bashing?!?

"It is the first responsibility of every citizen to question authority." -Benjamin Franklin-
"The citizen who criticizes his country is paying it an implied tribute." -J. William Fulbright-

"To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men." - Abraham Lincoln -

"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it." –Proverb-

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and consciencious stupidity." Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.-

The “Election”................................

"People often say that, in a democracy, decisions are made by a majority of the people. Of course, that is not true. Decisions are made by a majority of those who make themselves heard and who vote -- a very different thing." Walter H. Judd

"It's not the voting that's democracy; it's the counting." -Tom Stoppard-

"Democracy and liberty are not the same. Democracy is little more than mob rule, while liberty refers to the sovereignty of the individual." -Walter Williams-

Energy Policy and Presidential Papers......................................................

...sealing information prevents the media and the public from assessing whether the government is adequately protecting citizens. Keeping information provided by businesses secret, they say, could help companies hide incriminating evidence about lax security or environmental contamination. Mimi Hall (USA TODAY)

September 11th and the “Patriot” Act:.......................................................

"Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -William Pitt-

" 'Useful,' and 'necessity' was always 'the tyrant's plea'." - C. S. Lewis-

-They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin-

" You see what power is -- holding someone else's fear in your hand and showing it to them!" -Amy Tan-

"There is but one element of government, and that is THE PEOPLE. From this element spring all governments. "For a nation to be free, it is only necessary that she wills it." For a nation to be slave, it is only necessary that she wills It." -John Adams-

"It is not the fact of liberty but the way in which liberty is exercised that ultimately determines whether liberty itself survives... When liberty is taken away by force it can be restored by force. When it is relinquished voluntarily by default it can never be recovered." -Dorothy Thompson -

"Power...offers a choice of servitudes but calls this choice liberty." - Raoul Vaneigem -

The “Department of Homeland Security”. Orange Alert!

"It is when power is wedded to chronic fear that it becomes formidable." -Eric Hoffer-

"Fear is the foundation of most governments." -John Adams-

"Now those who seek absolute power, even though they seek it to do what they regard as good, are simply demanding the right to enforce their own version of heaven on earth, and let me remind you they are the very ones who always create the most hellish tyranny." -Barry Goldwater –

IRAQ:.............................................

"No power but Congress can declare war, but what is the value of this constitutional provision, if the President of his own authority may make such military movements as must bring on war?" -Daniel Webster-

"The Constitution supposes what the history of all governments demonstrates, that the executive is the branch of power most interested in war and most prone to it. It has accordingly with studied care, vested the question of war in the legislature. [If a president is successful in bypassing the Congress] it is evident that the people are cheated out of the best ingredients in the government, the safeguards of peace which is the greatest of their blessings." -Richard M. Nixon-

"I cannot accept, your canon that we are to judge pope and king unlike other men, with a favorable presumption that they do no wrong. If there is any presumption, it is the other way against holders of power **Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. ** -Lord Acton [John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton]- (1834-1902),

This war isn’t just about oil (although that’s a factor), this isn’t just about political paybacks (although it’s sure lucrative for Halliburton, Bechtel, and the military industrial complex). ............................................

"Endless money forms the sinews of war." -Marcus Tullius Cicero-

Iraq isn’t about punishing the “evil doers” or mass graves, plenty of those still around the world (Liberia, Cambodia, Sierra Leone, Nigeria, Mexico, China, Pakistan, India).

"A man always has two reasons for what he does a good one, and the real one." J. P. Morgan

it isn’t just about Installing the neo-con’s King George in office (although creating an armed conflict for re-election purposes has been a used strategy)............................

"Kings had always been involving and impoverishing their people in wars, pretending generally, if not always, that the good of the people was the object." -Abraham Lincoln-

"Wars are caused by undefended wealth." -General Douglas MacArthur-
Mostly Iraq is about spending so much of the Nations coffers so that the anti-social ideology of the neo-con social-economic Darwinist’s will be permanently installed due to our grandchildren’s money going to pay this president’s bills.

"Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it." -George Bernard Shaw-

"The disappearance of a sense of responsibility is the most far consequence of submission to authority." -Stanley Milgram-

“They hate our freedoms”?!?..............................................................

"If you think we are free today, you know nothing about tyranny and even less about freedom." -Tom Braun- Radio Show, Spirit of '76 Voice of Warning

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe-

"I could think of no worse example for nations abroad, who for the first time were trying to put free electoral procedures into effect, than that of the United States wrangling over the results of our presidential election, and even suggesting that the presidency itself could be stolen by thievery at the ballot box." -Thomas Jefferson-

"The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men." -- Samuel Adams -(1722-1803

"Abuse of power isn't limited to bad guys in other nations. It happens in our own country if we're not vigilant." -Clint Eastwood-

UNDERSHAFT. Not at all. The more destructive war becomes the more fascinating we find it. No, Mr. Lomax: I am obliged to you for making the usual excuse for my trade; but I am not ashamed of it. I am not one of those men who keep their morals and their business in watertight compartments. All the spare money my trade rivals spend on hospitals, cathedrals and other receptacles for conscience money, I devote to experiments and researches in improved methods of destroying life and property. I have always done so; and I always shall. Therefore your Christmas card moralities of peace on earth and goodwill among men are of no use to me. Your Christianity, which enjoins you to resist not evil, and to turn the other cheek, would make me a bankrupt. M y morality -- my religion -- must have a place for cannons and torpedoes in it.
STEPHEN (coldly -- almost sullenly). You speak as if there were half a dozen moralities and religions to choose from, instead of one true morality and one true religion.
UNDERSHAFT. For me there is only one true morality; but it might not fit you, as you do not manufacture aerial battleships. There is only one true morality for every man; but every man has not the same true morality.
~George Bernard Shaw, Major Barbara

"If you think you're too small to make a difference, you haven't been in bed with a mosquito." -Anita Roddick-
on Nov 12, 2003
Wow what a long, and yet vapid response.
on Nov 13, 2003
Enh - some people collect quotes. I still prefer my Homer J. Simpson ones. Speaking of quotes:

"That, and having a shiny instrument of power on the shelf. For me, the good feeling you get when looking at your shiny instrument of death-dealing power"

Now that I read this, I have to blink again. Nick - does all of your experience with 'average people' owning a gun come from episodes of the Simpsons? I own guns, well gun now, and in fact I carried a concealed handgun for a year and a half (past tense - relates to only owning a singular gun now,) and I never once experienced this 'good feeling' while looking at my 'shiny instrument of death-dealing power' that you speak of. Perhaps you can enlighten me on this - was I doing it all wrong?

(After rereading what I wrote... people are right. Guns -are- filled with tons of pseudo-erotic imagery however.)
on Nov 13, 2003
Well, it was an exaggerated way of asking 'why else would you have one?' - I can't think of anything besides a) killing people or threatening them with death or It's shiny and you can wave it around and pretend to be in a movie. Of course, you might collect them, but if it makes you feel *bad* then there's probably an additional reason to get rid of it. Since neutrality on how it makes you feel just leaves your reasons at a), I doubt I'd want to spill your beer accidentally.
on Nov 13, 2003
It doesn't really matter whether you think it's okay for people to have guns or not. The issue is that half the population (more than half the population) of the United States believes in people's rights to own guns. But liberals think it's only fringe people who believe that and hence tend to cover gun control issues as if you have "civilized decent humans on the one hand and a bunch of NRA Nazi's on the other."

on Dec 15, 2003
Wow. You truly believe that? Well I got to give you credit for trying to say that it is "unintentional" but that's about it. Why don't you look at who owns the media, who they contribute to, and what is covered and not covered in the media. Also try reading books other than Goldberg's that disscuss the issue of "bias." Everyone has interests and their own agenda, liberal and conservative. To claim that the entire media is liberal or conservative is a joke. Honestly, "[d]ebating whether there is [conservative] media bias, for me, is like debating evolution vs. creationism." It goes both ways and is very apparent to those of us who look at both sides from an objective point of view. Although it is impossible to be completely unbiased it is possible to be professional and mature and to identify truths and lies on two opposing sides. However, since I don't have much time on my hands and little patience for brainwashed and stubborn people, I shall leave my argument at this.
on Dec 21, 2003
Too bad good ole Bernie GOldber has been proven wrong time and again as linguist Geoffrey Nunberg searched a database of 30 large daily newspapers in the United States. Nunberg discovered "a big disparity in the way the press labels liberals and conservatives -- but not in the direction that Goldberg claims." The data showed the average liberal legislator has a 30 percent greater likelihood of being identified with a partisan label than the average conservative does.

But nice try.

Perhaps BIll Kristol's quote is best used

"I admit it: the liberal media were never that powerful, and the whole thing was often used as an excuse by conservatives for conservative failures."