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What is it with drama kings/queens
Published on March 3, 2005 By Draginol In Just Hanging Out

What is it with people who throw a fit and delete all their stuff in a given on-line community? Who do they think they're punishing? Just themselves. It's a classic "cut your nose to spite your face" scenario.

Happens on WinCustomize.com all the time. Some skinner will get mad because some guy ticked them off in the forums and so they go and delete all their stuff in a huff.  Typically, a few weeks later, they come back and ask us to restore their stuff for them.

The same thing happens with blogs. Every week or so, somebody gets mad at someone else and deletes their entire blog. Once in awhile, the person throwing the fit will be someone who's pretty popular so it gets more noticed.

From talking to the drama kings/queens over the years who do this, the explaination I get is almost always the same: "I want to make a statement".  They don't really know what the statement is.  The more intellectual ones will say something like "I don't want to support a community that would have members such as <insert user X here> who poison everything with his/her vile behavior."

The thing is, they are the ones losing out. Vile nasty people lurk in every community. But they burn out. The candle that burns twice as bright, burns half as long.  And toxic users burn very very bright and last very briefly.  I've been participating non-stop in on-line communities for the past 20 years. From 300 baud BBSes to what we have today.  People who are nasty and ill-willed towards others always flame out.

But before they flame out, they usually manage to take out one or two drama king/queens with them. The key is not to be one of them. 

Like I said, ultimately, the person taking themselves out isn't really making a statement. A user who leaves a community inevitably only makes their absence felt for a very short amount of time.  There were users here who were prolific in their day, who got mad, deleted their blogs in a huff and within a few months, the regulars of the day barely remembered them.

It's even worse with skinners who leave because the fanbase has such a short attention span.  I've known skinners who got mad at us at WinCustomize.com, deleted their skins and were convinced that their leaving would spark some sort of mass exodus -- or at the very least deal a fatal blow to the "community".  And inevitably, they are shocked -- and hurt -- to learn that while there is usually some short term sorrow at their leaving, within a few weeks, it's as if they had never existed.

And that's the thing about on-line communities that people need to understand. Being a drama king/queen is the fast track to misery. Even I, who have spent years building communities would be largely forgotten within months by most people. The hole that my absence would make would be filled by others. I never mistake my popularity for more than it really is.

And so to the potential net personality reading this - that is my advice to you - don't look to any sort of on-line community as being some sort of sentient being. It's not. It's just a mass.  Do what you do because you enjoy it. Make your wallpaper, skin, theme, article, blog, whatever because it's what you want to do.  And if it ceases being fun - and it will from time to time -- take a break. Don't eliminate yourself by removing everything you've built up. The effect on the community will be negligible and may only bring you regret later on.


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on Mar 03, 2005
I've deleted everything I've written once out of anger, and just recently because my own writing was boring me. The last time coincided with some idiocy, but that idiocy didn't motivate it. I don't regret the former and I highly reccommend the latter. I get bored with the style and subjects I write about, and getting rid of everything is a really nice purge that gives you a great blank page to start over on. Like buying a new notebook and seeing that first blank page full of possibilities. A lot of writing doesn't age well, and filing it away in a drawer somewhere is sometimes good. I realize a blog doesn't work like a journal, but that's my background.

The most amusing part of net melodrama is reading all the articles that get posted pontificating and examining it like geologists at a volcanic eruption. Pretty soon, the trees start growing back and everybody's gone on to the earthquake that happened 1000 miles away.
on Mar 03, 2005

The hole that my absence would make would be filled by others.

God I wish more people grasped just how many situations this applied to.

most amusing part of net melodrama is

For me it is folks who swear they will never come back and then come back in two weeks (no this isn't aimed at anyone in particular just in general).

on Mar 03, 2005
I understand your point Draginol. I know i could react like that because i'm still childish in my reactions sometimes. I can imagine the scenario: Slam the door and leave thinking hah! that was so dramatic and i'm so proud of myself for standing for myself!

Yeah right, that would be making a complete fool of myself. People would be bewildered for the first hour than would go on with what they were doing and forget about the episod. The worst would be for me to come back with my head hanging down and say i want to be part of the community again. Yikes! What a Shame! Or maybe the worst would be to be scared of coming back and missing out on a lot of things.
on Mar 03, 2005
folks who swear they will never come back and then come back in two weeks


*laugh* I think I made it a weekend. And I felt like a big fool. I deleted my articles (though I saved them) earlier this week and got some e-mails asking me was I pouting again. Well, I deserved that, because I *was* pouting the last time I did it.

My counselor keeps talking to me about controlling my anger, and I've gotten better but times like this week remind me of how far I have to go. It's frustrating.
on Mar 03, 2005
Good article. People should think twice before declaring they are going to leave. I think everyone will get to a point when they get too busy, frustrated, or bored to blog, but it doesn't mean you have to be gone for good. Take a needed break...and when the mood strikes, come back and join us...
on Mar 03, 2005
learn that while there is usually some short term sorrow at their leaving, within a few weeks, it's as if they had never existed.


Same thing when someone dies. That's the way of life; it just keeps moving.

on Mar 04, 2005

Been there, done that, and like you say no one ever cares. I've seen people stand beside me, rant about the injustice d'jeur, and then sheepishly wave goodbye when you storm away. No one ever leaves without a few well-wishers offering "Hell Yeah"s right up til the end. The well-wishers always seem to stay on, though. It's bullshit, Not that people want to take a stand, mind you, but that in the end it means so little. I think it just means more to some people than others, or means more in different ways.

I deleted my stuff from skin sites 3 times out of vindictiveness. Twice because of overt insults by the owners of the site, and once because I simply disagreed with a double standard. I'm a hypocrite, and admit it readily. The only reason the third time stuck was because I was burned out and wasn't skinning anyway. Nothing I had made was up to date, and I really wasn't much interested in making more.

I think it is a misguided sense of "home". People want to belong, and want to feel like their input matters. When something is intolerable, they like to think their presence will be valued enough that things will change. In the end, you aren't at home, you're just ranting in someone else's living room, and you go home with one less place to frequent. Of course that isn't tolerable, either, so you skulk back, if you can stomach it.

I don't doubt there are true drama kings/queens, but some people simply want to feel like the place they devote so much time to is as reliant on them as they are on it. I've just become jaded and oldish, and realize that there is no "Cheers", nowhere that knows your name, unless you impress it upon them from time to time. Walk off, and they forget you ten minutes later.

on Mar 04, 2005
I guess you've seen your fair share of this behaviour. I too wonder why people even bother reacting to flamers. I mean, the best dialogue is the calm, intelligent type. Opinions might still differ, but at least there is a chance you might learn something new.
on Mar 04, 2005
So true Brad. It's good to take a break when on-line community gets to be too much for someone to handle. Going off in a huff and banning oneself isn't worth the fuss. In the long run the individual is the one who hurts the most. Because when they started blogging, it was for a purpose, a release or whatever termonology they chose when it began.


"But before they flame out, they usually manage to take out one or two drama king/queens with them. The key is not to be one of them."

Yep, ignoring them is the best thing. Pretend they don't exist even better.
on Mar 04, 2005
I would honestly much rather see such people just leave than throw an extended temper-tantrum on their posts and in the forums. It drags everyone else down into it as we've seen with some of the recent flame wars here.

I guess it's just an extension of people's petty nature to delve down into intense wars of words with other people online. At most when someone flames out and leaves I can hardly ever muster more of a reaction than "Good Riddance" They've obviously started taking this whole blog thing too seriously (to an unhealthy extent probably) and need to take a break.
on Mar 04, 2005
Double post... sorry
on Mar 04, 2005

I think the issue is one of maturity.  For the wisened and experienced, they know that their withdrawal will make as big a hole as that which is left when you take your finger out of the bowl of water.

The young feel they can make a difference in everything they do. While that is sort of true, they forget that nature abhors a vacuum, and their departure will be filled by others.

on Mar 04, 2005

Guilty as charged.  You know, every time I log onto this site out of curiosity about who's who now and whatnot, there's always more drama going on.  It's never different, either.  The exact same things happen over and over and over again.  It's a bit maddening...but consoling at the same time.

We are all the same, we all want respect and admiration, we all want to be heard.  We all want our presence to shatter everyone elses, and we all want to missed when we're gone.  The only way to know if we would be missed is to leave.  Shallow, but true.

Trinitie

on Mar 04, 2005

hehe...couldn't help but feel this one hitting close to home, myself, although I only hid my articles rather than deleted them (I am a point whore once and always, even when angry...lol). It's hard sometimes in the heat of anger to separate your emotions from rational thought.

But eventually, everything comes back around (your article on the life cycle of a net community addresses it as well...I might have to go dig that up and bump it).

on Mar 04, 2005
I did the whole Delete and leave thing, but not for the reason one might think, In my own insecurity I left because i felt i did not belong here.

Lost 30 or 40 articles ... I throw one good snit when i do throw one. lol
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