No, there is not. I told her, and she acknowledged with another insult, that I am not a republican. Conservative, yes. Yet she perists with the lie. That is not a draw, it is a lie. But then you do not have to "dig" anything. She has not made an arguement yet anywhere, just insults because she cant.

Besides, it has been a long time since we had a real loony loopy luddite liberal. I am letting her bury herself.

Why expend energy arguing when the other is just spewing hatred? let them spew!

Like I said, maybe I am wrong. Besides, you're still setting her/him up; baiting them. Heh, now I get why they call it a sport, it's open season on liberals here on JU. I think I'll just sit on the sidelines. Survival of the smartest! lol Anywho, have a good day.

Oh, and why? Because I don't see the point in egging them on. In fact, I don't get, or see the point in many things y'all do here. But that's just me.

Shhh! Of course I am! What is the fun otherwise?

And why? So they can show you what the loons on your side of the aisle are really like. You may vote for Obama, call yourself a super liberal, spout "love, peace" flowery type statements. Even make some real stupid statements at times.

But you have never been like this loon. And I doubt you ever will. Know your enemy, and what better way than to let them tell you in their own words.

Oh please I kick the snot out of rightwing pansys like you on a daily basis. You are all for running your mouth but you run like GW from a national guard drug test when called on your lies.

What is the point in unnecessary agitation? You're not going to kick a dog just because it's fun, right?



Actually, I call myself Lucas. My party, is just an eight letter word just beneath my name on my voting card. If I could vote without registering a party, I would. Besides, I'm primarily (at the core) an old style liberal, with some modern things attached. But yes, I am very much a hippie at heart, and you know what? I'm damn proud of it. We need more people like that. And you know what, I'm not all flowery, I do have my head on straight, I just favor peace, love, inaction and what not over war, violence and everything opposite of it.

Granted, I have, but so have you Doc. (Remember, you boycott the news...but use it anyway. )



See, that's where we differ. I don't see you as my enemy. I don't see anyone as my enemy, because I remember that first and foremost, they're human just like I am. Second, they're American, just like me.



Oi vey...dude, or dudette, if you have any common sense, just give it up.

Where? Not here! You got your tuckus handed to you on a paper plate WF! But then I would not expect you to understand debate, or logic since you have none. Just insults (and with the 3 fingers, self definitions) and opinions.

For the clueless - Opinions are like assholes - everyone has one.  

You can. It is a right, not a privelege. I have never registered to a party and voted in every election since I turned 18, save 2.



You misunderstand. I do not boycott the news, I boycott the MSM.



Nor did I say we were. I said know you enemy. If you are a true liberal, and believe in liberal ideals, then TP is an anathema to you. Their ilk only shows the ugly nasty side of liberalism (for some that is all there is, but to be fair let's assume there is more). Know you enemy is to let YOU know who is trashing your views. And it is not me, talk radio, or the GOP. It is loons like TP. After all, over 40% of the electorate is independant, and they decide elections. They are not going to vote for a party of hate and insults, and that is what this loon - and it appears the only thing this loon - is all about.

So you just aren't interested in what happened unless its the view that you want to hear. At least you are honest about your imbecilic bias.

But your news comes from the MSM. How can you boycott the MSM without boycotting the news?



But that's the thing, I don't see enemies. I see everyone as humans, Americans. I disagree with TP, but i dont see him as an enemy.



Not where I'm from.

For one, I read it on the internet. You are correct, that does involve the MSM, but unfortuntely for them, does nothing for their ratings.

I also use non-traditional feeds, which give me my news from the MSM, but is not the MSM. One can hardly argue that Yahoo is MSM, although they do take the feeds.



I know. You will not see the enemy until they are quartered in your house. I know that about you. But one day you may wake up and realize that not everyone loves you, and many are out to gig you, however they can. That is called experience (note, I said many - that is not most or all).



Then you have a court issue. The right to vote cannot be denied period. It is in the constitution, and whoever is denying you that, is violating the constitution. I would take it to the ACLU - no cost to you, and they actually sometimes do take real cases.

But they're still feeds...from the MSM. Sorry, I'm just trying to wrap my head around this, and still I'm getting to the point where: You still get news from the MSM, even if it is "filtered" via Yahoo.



I know that not everyone loves me, I'm not naive. (Duh, look around here Doc, I'm not exactly liked like a pay check when you're broke.) I know that there are people who will hate me, trust me I know that. I may look unexperienced, but I've gone through a good amount of shit so far in my life. Now I'm not saying I am all wise or great, far from it, i'm just saying there is more to me than you think.

But still, I'm not going to call them my enemy. They're still human, and they're just being asses. Simple enough.




In Oregon (as far as I know) you have to be registered with a party in order to vote.

So does talk radio, yet we are constantly being told that is another medium. So which is it? You can have it as the MSM, or you can say it was filtered through other sites. I will buy that. But I dont "get" it directly from them. Too much bias in it.



When they have a gun pointed at your mother, wife, lover - they are your enemy. Period.



Like I said, take it to the ACLU - it will cost you nothing and it is unconstitutional.

Well, I don't plan on getting to that point. Besides, my mother, well they are completely screwed, she's one feisty firecracker, and would pretty much kick their ass.

If I did get to that point, I still wouldn't see them as my enemy, I would defend myself and my family though. Sorry Doc, try as you may, I'm not going to change my mind. Maybe down the road, years down the road, I will change, but right now, nope.



But how much filtering? It brings up the question: What really is the news today? We have so many spin news agencies, that it becomes difficult to know whether or not what is being reported is really what happened. And Doc, the reality is that there is always, always going to be bias. Bias is a part of life.



Meh, I'm already registered and will be voting in the next week or two I believe. (We do it by mail here, the oddity Oregon is.)

You will.