I'm not going to get involved in any of the vitriol that has come up in the comments, I just want to address what Drag originally said.

The man served for six years in the military.  I'm sure we each have our own opinions of him, and I'm sure we can both agree that he's nuts, but I think it's stepping over the line to call a veteran a rabid anti-American who hate the country he served.  Obama has denounced him several times, as well.

John Hagee, on the other hand, has claimed that New Orleans was punished by God with hurricane Katrina due to their vast amounts of sin.  He has said that Hitler did nothing the Romans did not do to the Jews.  McCain has said that he is "proud" to have his pastor's endorsement.  Why is this not even on the radar when speaking of Jeremiah Wright?

Out of context, and the woman made a point to clarify that she meant she has never been so proud as she has been recently.  Rejecting that clarification is nothing but quibbling over the word "as".  I, for one, think that it is telling of the candidate's overall strength if his wife leaving the word "as" out of a sentence one of two times she made a passing statement is really going to be one of the cudgels used to fight him with.

Once again, it seems a truly trivial thing to uphold as a reason to reject a candidate for president.  "Well, on one occasion Senator Obama failed to state the pledge" sounds like a rather weak argument against the man should it come up in debate.   

John McCain has frequently granted interviews, made speeches, etc. without a flag pin.  I cannot fathom a reason to chastize Obama, and not McCain, for this.  It's a pin.  It's an issue of non-patriotism only if you already feel at some level that the man is not a patriot. 

I would like to see what lies beneath the "etc." in this sentence.

A few points here.  First, the notion that the left wants to change the country to their views implies that the country right now excludes them in order to serve your views.  This is not your country, your party's country, or your sect of your party's country.  It is ours.  That's the whole point. 

Second, what do you think these mythical liberal values are, and how in the world do you think they differ from conservative ones?  Family values, as if no liberal cares for his own family?  Jobs, as if no liberal needs one?  The notion that there is some vast rift in values between liberals and conservatives is simply false.  The difference is not in values, it's in how to go about acting on them.  There are not liberal values and conservative values, there are american values - human values.  Denying this serves a very simple political purpose: if all these values are exclusive of liberals, then there is no platform for liberals to stand on; thus, liberals stand for nothing.  It is a political stance to speak of values as if liberals and conservatives don't share them.

Third, the notion that you can think the US is fundamentally flawed puzzles me.  The country is flawed?  Do you mean the soil?  The people?  The government?  Obviously you do not mean that liberals think the soil is corrupt somehow, but it serves the larger point.  No politician runs to change people, they run for the people to change their government.  It is not that the US is fundamentally flawed, it's that the status quo standard operating procedure in our government is fundamentally flawed.  Translation: it's that the administration is flawed, not the country. This is a view that Republicans hold of Democratic presidencies as well as Democrats of Republican ones.

Conservatives may understand how to format properly on your forums better than liberals though

The man is not qualified for President. YEs hes a dynamic personality, yes he has charisma but his ideology is so flawed it's scary. If you think his universal healthcare will work go look at the countries who have that already. I have friends in England who say their healthcare system is horrible.

And just read an article this weekend that Frances is so bad that even tho they have universal healthcare people are STILL going to private doctors because the care is so horrible.

Now as for nogotiating with Iran he uses Reagan as an example but it doesn't work. Reagan sat down with Gorby and started this is what we want and when they said no he walked away and made them come to us. THAT is how the diplomacy was done with a threat like the Soviet union.

If you do it the way Obama wants it will turn into another UN/Iraq (people only know what the crappy press write but we tried sanctions for 12 years on Saddam and Iraq with nothing getting done until we toppled his regime). I lived thru 9-11 and alot of you forget just how scary that was. I had family working downtown at that time and couldnt find out for hours wether they were dead or alive. So dropping our offensive posture against terrorist regimes is a definite no no in my book.

I respect your opinion, but I believe that Obama is just as much a patriot for our country as ANYONE. Why would he even run for president if he didn't care about this country?

I use the simple quote "Dont try to fix whats not broken" OUr country is still one of the top 3 powerhouses in the world, so why are we complaining and wanting change

Why is it that politicians who make idiotic statements try to explain the nuance as if we are too dumb to understant what was said.  It is really a half truth or a lie.  The language that they themselves don't understant.  Then, three or four members of the media who resides in the pocket of the politician insults us by repeating the inane statement and trie to make us believe who that they only want to clarify stupidity.  One of the reasons that great men and women are remembered is because of the simplicity of their language.