Brad Wardell's views about technology, politics, religion, world affairs, and all sorts of politically incorrect topics.
Published on August 25, 2008 By Draginol In PC Gaming

Stardock is looking for developers and artists to work on our upcoming games ranging from the fantasy strategy game, an RPG, an MMORTS, and of course future versions of GalCiv.

So what do you need to do to work at Stardock?

Here is the check list:

  1. Work in Plymouth Michigan. We're near Ann Arbor Michigan. Seriously.  We get lots of people saying how great they can "work from remote".  We already have lots of remote people. We need people here.
  2. If you're a developer, you need to know C++ (at the very least) on Visual Studio. We don't care how much formal experience you have as long as you can code. We can't teach you how to do that, you have to already know it and be pretty good.
  3. You have to be into gaming. At Stardock, everyone participates in the game design. There is no such thing as a game designer at Stardock and there will almost certainly never will be. We all take part.
  4. If you're an artist, you need to know 3D Studio or Maya (preferably both).  You also need to have a portfolio of cool stuff you've made.
  5. You need to be self-starting. Seriously. Raises at Stardock are not based on percentages, they're based on what you produce. We have people here who started out making <$30k who now make over $100k. 
  6. You must be able to get along with others.  We get a lot of people interviewing who are quite certain that they're the smartest people in human history and make every effort to impress that on us.  Look we're just a bunch of Monty Python loving, Simpsons watching goons but we are reasonably bright too, mutual respect amongst the team is crucial.

If you think you or someone you know may fit this basic criteria, send us your resume.  bwardell@stardock.com and jobs@stardock.com should do the trick. 

Also, no interns, co-ops, etc. We're looking for people who are ready to get into making cool stuff right now and stay at it until the game is done.

A few other things about Stardock:

  • We don't lay off after projects. Once you're hired, as long as you do a good job, you're here as long as you want.
  • We've been around for 15 years as of this October. It's a very stable environment.
  • Very laid back working environment. We like to have fun.
  • Typical work week is about 45 hours a week. Crunch times are rare and short. Since I am there during crunch time and I'm lazy, I tend to work to schedule things so that there aren't much crunch times (I.e. I pad the schedule).

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on Aug 25, 2008
Ok, I've been coding in C++ for at least 5 years, I love gaming and game design, and I'm a major geek. I'm also quite self-starting, whatever that might be. In short, I'd love to work with you guys, and I appreciate the proposal, but I'm in Brazil, so I fail item #1 in the checklist.

Who knows... maybe someday.

BTW, usual work week in Brasil is 44 hours, so that's one more thing I would have no problems with... bummer. Well, at least I get to PLAY the games.
on Aug 25, 2008

That rant aside, I have to again accuse Brad of being a most un-corporate corporation owner. If I had less love for my birthplace, appropriate skills, and a tolerance for ridiculous winters, I'd be pitching hard for a gig up there.

Same here, except for the bit about winters. Better cold than hot - I can dress for cold. I might get arrested for dressing appropriately for the heat

As for the work week, mine is defined at 37.5 hours, but I'm hourly, not salary. I can technically get overtime, but the levels of approval to actually get it make it unlikely. And what the hell at the German 28 days vacation? I might make that if I'm still here in 20 years, but for the first 5 I'm getting 14 days.

on Aug 25, 2008
Boo being 16 and not knowing how to code/model/skins/really anything to do with computers.

But I do like Monty Python! Yay having a British dad!
on Aug 25, 2008
make 62,500 in NC (research triangle park) and 75,000 in MAAs you can see salaries are very location dependent. I live in MA (Concord) and I can tell you that 75K pretty much anywhere in eastern MA is barely a living wage (unless you're still living with your parents). I suspect that the cost of living in Plymouth, MI is far more reasonable. Plus after you've been around the block a few times you come to realize that it's hard to put a price on even just a little bit of loyalty. Just starting out like you are it's hard to have that perspective but I would trade a fair percentage of my income for just a bit of employer/employee loyalty.



Well my friend is living by himself and pays he says 1400 a month for his apartment and he said he's still banking a ton after taxes and everything. He just bought a 40k car, not sure if that was smart or not hah. He's not where you live though, he said its like 40 mins from boston.

That is true, after seeing people at IBM get fired after 25 years, kind of opens your eyes to how the IT world really is

62,500 in NC is pretty good though for entry level. You can get a 2 bed room 2 baths for 600 a month, I just can't stand the weather down there, so humid. I might head to cali where the cost of living really is fun!
on Aug 25, 2008
75k..in Eastern MA? Where exactly are you living, some kind of rich people paradise..area?
75k is actually quite a good wage for a starting out person, most people get by with 40-50k in NYC. Not everyone can get a programmer's wage, and they live in apartments and such like every other normal person. 1600-1500 is pretty much what you pay for a nice apartment somewhere in Brooklyn or Queens. Of course, you don't have to pay for a car, I guess that factors in a bit.

I mean, if you want to live in like Manhattan or something, 75k isn't going to cut it, but I can surely say that any person making more than 75k a year can be definitely be considered upper-middleclass, if not outright rich.
on Aug 25, 2008

And what the hell at the German 28 days vacation?

A good start! I think 12 weeks would be better. More home projects finished, more kids and pets properly coddled, and way less cranky folks at work.

on Aug 25, 2008

Well my friend is living by himself and pays he says 1400 a month for his apartment and he said he's still banking a ton after taxes and everything. He just bought a 40k car, not sure if that was smart or not hah. He's not where you live though, he said its like 40 mins from boston.
Yeah 1400 a month is about right for the greater Boston area and you absolutely have to have a car however $40K for a car is pretty steep particularly if he bought it on time or even worse on a lease. The real rub is medical insurance. For example I pay $1500 per month pre-tax money for medical and dental. That's for subscriber plus one coverage. So yeah, I suppose a young kid with no dependents can get by OK on 75K but I really don't know about banking a ton of money unless you consider $10K per year a ton.

Anyway add going out on occasion, then a year later you find yourself with a live-in girlfriend who drops a kid on you, quits her job and becomes a wife and you suddenly go from banking a "ton" of money to being 10K deeper in debt each year.

Tell you what. Wait 5 years and tell us how well your friend is doing. Perhaps wait for him to actually pay off that $40K car and have to buy the next one. Wait for him to be laid off for 6 months or a year before he finds a comparable job and then come back and tell us how well he's doing. If after 5 years that kid has more than $25K in the bank I'd be damn surprised.

on Aug 25, 2008

70hrs a week!!!! Holy shit! Standard week over here (aust) is 38-40 hrs. I dont know about the average wage but i do 36hrs a week and take about 42K but with free healthcare once i pay my tax it's all mine.

I could not imagine any job or pay amount that could convince me to work regularly 70hrs a week. How you have anytime for games Mumble is beyond me. Imagine your MV score if you only worked 40 hrs....lol.

As for the work week, mine is defined at 37.5 hours, but I'm hourly, not salary. I can technically get overtime, but the levels of approval to actually get it make it unlikely. And what the hell at the German 28 days vacation? I might make that if I'm still here in 20 years, but for the first 5 I'm getting 14 days.

I'd kill for any holidays or sick leave. I get none of that. If i want a week off i can get it but i dont get any money that week. I guess i better start planning for that 2 week trip at xmas now then huh....

on Aug 25, 2008

I'd kill for any holidays or sick leave. I get none of that. If i want a week off i can get it but i dont get any money that week. I guess i better start planning for that 2 week trip at xmas now then huh....

Been there, done that. My current job is the first one I've ever had that had paid vacation or sick leave. It's also the first that gives me holidays off.

on Aug 25, 2008
Well my friend is living by himself and pays he says 1400 a month for his apartment and he said he's still banking a ton after taxes and everything. He just bought a 40k car, not sure if that was smart or not hah. He's not where you live though, he said its like 40 mins from boston.Yeah 1400 a month is about right for the greater Boston area and you absolutely have to have a car however $40K for a car is pretty steep particularly if he bought it on time or even worse on a lease. The real rub is medical insurance. For example I pay $1500 per month pre-tax money for medical and dental. That's for subscriber plus one coverage. So yeah, I suppose a young kid with no dependents can get by OK on 75K but I really don't know about banking a ton of money unless you consider $10K per year a ton.
Anyway add going out on occasion, then a year later you find yourself with a live-in girlfriend who drops a kid on you, quits her job and becomes a wife and you suddenly go from banking a "ton" of money to being 10K deeper in debt each year.
Tell you what. Wait 5 years and tell us how well your friend is doing. Perhaps wait for him to actually pay off that $40K car and have to buy the next one. Wait for him to be laid off for 6 months or a year before he finds a comparable job and then come back and tell us how well he's doing. If after 5 years that kid has more than $25K in the bank I'd be damn surprised.


LoL yah he's single and 23 so he has no dependencies. But when he said he bought that 40k car, I asked how he was going to pay that off, and he said, pretty fast hah. So I don't know if he's bullshitting or he thinks he's really going to.

I'm debating if I should go with cisco in that area if the cost of living is that much. It might work out the same though if I accept the 62,500 in NC. Another thing is, will I really enjoy devloping software for them. Game programming sounds so much funner but its just the job security and a part of me thinks once I start programming games all day I will hate gaming.

I'm going to google to see if there are any calculators out there that will estimate the cost of living of an area versus how much you make so if I get a job offer out in CA I'll know if I'm getting ripped off or not. My one friend accepted a 60k job and he's living in Carlsbad, CA!

Yah I heard medical was rough that's why I was wondering how well stardocks benefits were
on Aug 25, 2008

Frogboy,

I gave up coding in the 80/90's (too many grey hairs as it is...  ) but I'm hell-on-wheels when if comes to networking!   

Maybe you'll need someone like me someday, you know where to find me......hehe


the Monk
on Aug 25, 2008
I suppose it's a bit different where Mumble is. From what I've seen, it's mostly 40-50 hours a week here, with maybe (Rarely) up to 60 during absolute crunch time like Christmas and such. Some are less, though. Plus, anything over 40, and they have to start paying overtime pay. (Making it time and a half.)

Job market is non-existent, though...

I'm hell-on-wheels when if comes to networking!

I don't think you have to tell anybody that.
on Aug 25, 2008
damn......and you caught me with a spelling mistake too, Kit!   


**lamenting the no-edit button now...hehe**
on Aug 25, 2008

Euh - i already work for SD as 'remote' modder, does that count as an offer from my subconscious part?

 

Seriously, i am completely retired from development tasks as i'm being employed right now 'part-time' during week-ends in a fairly well paid situation (I supervise a residence for "special people" - some call it psychosis & geriatric duties, btw)... nothing i enjoy more than to create & design stuff in the remaining days & nights for a game i care about though. For free.

 

That's the deal with us, modders - i believe - we simply DO it. We don't care how much we gain or not from the entire activity (heck, i could even ASK for money... but i wouldn't dare - not my type of a person).

Sure, you could also issue a *payment* for services rendered - i'd send it back claiming i have absolutely no rights to it.

 

I live in Laval, Quebec - winters are frozen wrecking though, summers are perfect, humidity tolerable. I've got family, toys, a PC and many dreams yet.

 

I share my results with a community from abroad. I'm just a foreigner who can be generous or useful to total strangers who sold me a wonderful software, they deserve my cash cuz they earned it.

I certainly hope you find the pearl of a coder you're looking for. Which will have to move to Michigan and be part of something greater than our common Universe of game design(s) and what else.

 

Gimme a time machine and loop us all back in November 1987 - i'd rush cross that US_Canada border in a black Toyota SR5 or buying a oneway jet_plane ticket with sprinkles in my eyes. Telling my girl, hang on tight baby we're going to another galaxy - fast.

on Aug 25, 2008


From what I hear coding in the 80's and early 90s was the best time to do it!
Tons of money if you just know alittle from what my uncle tells me (and he's pretty well off with 7 kids).

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