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Published on September 27, 2008 By Draginol In Republican

Tonight's debate scored by me.

Q 1: How do you feel about the financial bail out package.

Barack: 9. Good answer.

McCain:  5. Lame.

 

Q 2: What do you think of the plan.

Barack: 6. He says he warned against this disaster. A bit lame in that he blames Republicans exclusively. 

McCain: 8. Better.

Barack (followup): 8 articulate.

McCAin (followup): 5. Cliches.

 

Q 3: What should we do about government?

McCain: 7.  Earmarks are evil. Obama is part of the problem. Very scripted.

Barack: 4. Earmarks are abused but the total amount is $18B while McCain wants to give money to the wealthy. Oh wah. Class warfare.

McCain: 8. Fired up. Barack loves to spend other people's money.

Barack: 7. Class warfare. The rich are evil.

McCain: 8. The rich pay most of the taxes. Outsourcing is caused by having high taxes in the USA. What is Obama's definition of "rich"?

Barack: 8. $250k. Besides, the rich have loopholes.

McCain is getting annoyed.

McCain: 9 Obama talks a good talk but in reality, Obama is full of crap (basically).

 

Q 4: What would you delay first to pay for the bail out?

Obama: 8. Highest priority is energy independence. Rest is scripted junk.

McCain: 9 Cut spending. That's his priority.

 

(So when is foreign policy going to be brought up?)

Q 5: (followup) Yea but what are you going to cut?

Obama: 8. We do have to get spending under control and make government more transparent.

McCain: 8. Spending freeze.

Obama: 4. Nuanced bullshit.

 

Q 6: (followup) Look, what precisely will happen because of this giganormous financial bailout in terms of your budgeting??

Obama: 5 More nuanced bullshit leading into lame class warfare stuff.

McCain: 8. Yea, CUT spending.

McCain doesn't make eye contact minus 2 points for him.

Obama: 7 Mcain votes same as Bush 90% of the time.

McCain: 9. Oh please.

 

Okay, finally get into foreign policy.

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Overall, I'd say Obama had the edge but both did pretty well.  McCain not looking at Obama is going to haunt him though.


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on Sep 26, 2008

I was thinking about doing this...but I don't have the attention span for it.

~Zoo

on Sep 26, 2008

I like it. McCain's winning, ain't he. Obama needs to stop saying "I agree."

"I think my opponent wastes too much money" -McCain (in a nutshell)

"I agree..." -Obama

on Sep 27, 2008

Those are pretty high grades, actually.  Guess the debate was worth watching.

on Sep 27, 2008

Headlines on News sites - Paul Newman dies.

SO much for that debate.

on Sep 27, 2008

Headlines on News sites - Paul Newman dies.

He did....?  Ohhh...

 

As for the debate, good blog Brad! 

on Sep 27, 2008

Barack: 6. He says he warned against this disaster.

When was this I wonder? If it's true, in what context and in front of what audience?

A bit lame in that he blames Republicans exclusively.

A bit lame??? It was political postering knowing that a certan number of listeners would take it as truth.

The answer lies in the abject failure of both America's financial elite and the political elite of both parties -- the same elites now working together to determine how much of our wealth will be needed to bail the nation out of the crisis of their own creation. ......Pat Buchanan. (I'd add to this those people who have a beer budget and bought the finest wine.)

Q 4: What would you delay first to pay for the bail out? Obama: 8. Highest priority is energy independence. Rest is scripted junk. McCain: 9 Cut spending. That's his priority.

Obama -2 in my gradebook. He's avoiding the fact that we have our own oil...he's not willing to drilling here, now.   

If this $700 billion bailout is ladled out by the government...The downsizing of America's spending is at hand and McCain gets it.....yet Obama is a "spend to give entitlements" kind of guy.....and he just can't change his stripes.  The moderator asked him several times what' he'd be willing to give up and Obama answered by citing the things we absolutely "need".... early education...universal health care....

 

 

on Sep 27, 2008

The moderator asked him several times what' he'd be willing to give up and Obama answered by citing the things we absolutely "need".... early education...universal health care....

Good catch Lula. We noticed this too.  Here we are virtually ready to collapse economically and he's worried about funding early childhood education saying that is absolutely got to be increased when he was asked about what cuts he would do. 

We may be in trouble and owned by other countries but as long as the little kids get funded everything will be peachy? 

Nobdody else has brought this up that I've seen yet.  It was a total disregard for the question put in front of him. 

 

on Sep 27, 2008

"CBS News and Knowledge Networks conducted a nationally representative poll of approximately 500 uncommitted voters reacting to the debate in the minutes after it happened.

Thirty-nine percent of uncommitted voters who watched the debate tonight thought Barack Obama was the winner. Twenty-four percent thought John McCain won. Thirty-seven percent saw it as a draw.

Forty-six percent of uncommitted voters said their opinion of Obama got better tonight. Thirty-two percent said their opinion of McCain got better.

Sixty-six percent of uncommitted voters think Obama would make the right decisions about the economy. Forty-two percent think McCain would. "

 

I thought it was about a draw, McCain was on the offensive most the night and was a little bit rude cutting in.

on Sep 27, 2008

Just in terms of who performed better, and leaving my own political views out of it, I scored it McCain 5 Obama 4 (counting the the second question being reasked as a seperate question).  I though Obama did well in the first half of the debate while McCain struggled to find his words.  In the second half, McCain started landing some pretty good blows and put Obama on the defensive.  Am I the only one who niticed that there were a couple of questions where Obama was asking to please move on?  Maybe some took that as being polite to the moderator, but there was at least once where I took it to mean that Obama really wanted to end McCain's attacks on the current topic.

I could see those who are influenced by first impressions or didn't watch the whole debate as closely as the beginning thinking that it was a big win for Obama. 

on Sep 27, 2008

Earlier in the primary campaign, Obama claimed that as president he'd sit down with Armahaded without pre-conditions. He's been called on it time and again but is so proud to admit that he was wrong that he owns it now.....it's become his own doctrine. The moderator asked about it and Obama claimed that former Sec. of State Henry Kissinger agreed about presidents speaking to tyrants without pre-conditions. McCain corrected him saying Kissinger said no such thing and that doing so was "naive and dangerous".

Today on Fox in a phone interview, Kissinger said Obama was wrong and confirmed McCain was right.  I wonder if any of the other media have brought this out.

on Sep 27, 2008

McCain not looking at Obama is going to haunt him though.

It's one of those damned if you do and damned if you don't.....

on Sep 27, 2008

I thought they both did decent.

 

Obama kept asking to move on because McCain's tactic of getting the last word in was this:

Obama: start to retort

McCain: <in louder voice> and... <drone on slowly until moderator says they have to move on>

McCain successfully gets last word in.  Smart tactic in terms of strategy, but lame imo (because he made no worthwhile point in his last minute droning).

on Sep 28, 2008

(because he made no worthwhile point in his last minute droning).

Isn't that true of all the candidates?

on Sep 28, 2008

Here we are virtually ready to collapse economically and he's worried about funding early childhood education saying that is absolutely got to be increased when he was asked about what cuts he would do.

Maybe if we focus on education, then this kind of shit won't happen anymore.

...you're suggesting we cut educational funding to compensate for economic loss?  I have to say that's a horrible idea.  I'd rather cut anything else other than education.  We have enough stupid people in the world as it is...just look at our politicians, for instance.

~Zoo

on Sep 28, 2008

Maybe if we focus on education, then this kind of shit won't happen anymore.

really?  And what school did Senator Obama graduate from?  It seems as tho the more academic education they have, the more idiotic non-common sense ideas they have.  So that's not the cure-all for our problems. 

you're suggesting we cut educational funding to compensate for economic loss?

I'm saying funding early education is the least of our problems. Besides that wasn't the answer to the question put in front of him.  He seemed more concerned with that than the state of our country right now during a financial crisis. 

 

 

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