Decisive Victory for Bush

Bush defeats Kerry

Published on November 3, 2004 By Draginol In Politics

The call has been made. Bush has won the election. It was more decisive than anyone would have believed.

Bush: 286 Electoral Votes to Kerry's 252.

Bush also won 51% of the overall popular vote, a definite majority of the overall vote. What's also significant is that turn out was very high this year. More people voted this year than any previous election by a significant margin (about 115,000,000 votes). Bush won by almost 4 million votes overall.

For those who dislike the Republicans and Bush, the news is actually much worse than that, however. Bush's party amazingly picked up FOUR senate seats (which is really remarkable). The Democratic leader of the senate was even defeated which is the first time in over 50 years that something like that has happened. Bush now appears to have a 55 to 44 Senate advantage.

And to pile it on, Bush's party also picked up seats in the House of Representatives. What that means is that Bush policies will be much more easy to get through than previous.

It's not what I predicted. On October 15th, The Political Machine simulated AI vs. AI with the issues as we tweaked them and it showed a 274 to 264 Kerry advantage. TPM had narrowly given Ohio, New Mexico and Iowa to Kerry. (47 out of 50 ain't bad for a video game).

Bush picked up two states that were Gore states in 2000 - Iowa and New Mexico. And Kerry picked up New Hampshire, which borders Kerry's home state which had gone for Bush in 2000.

So now the question is, what happened? And for non-Americans, what does this mean? I'll be writing about that in the coming days.

Comments (Page 1)

thatoneguyinslc

on Nov 03, 2004

I'll be the first to say i'm just glad it's all over without the replay of 2000. I just hope bush 2.0 realizes how polarized the country truly is, and tries to move more to the middle. This country needs to come together. Wether or not it happens is yet to be seen.

Island Dog

on Nov 03, 2004

This is a great victory.

mgosh

on Nov 03, 2004

Kerry did the right thing in this, creating another 2000 would have just weakened this country. Especially when you mathamatically cannot win.

historyishere

on Nov 03, 2004

It was more decisive than anyone would have believed.Bush: 286 Electoral Votes to Kerry's 252.

You know actually had it down? Some site called Presidentelect.org was predicting this result.... I guess having all the election data from the first election through 2000 gave him an edge.... I watched in disbelief as it came down last night.....

InfoGeek

on Nov 03, 2004

just hope bush 2.0 realizes how polarized the country truly is, and tries to move more to the middle.

That's what I was thinking. Yes he won but 44 million people he governs do not like what he is doing in some respect. He could ignore the 44 mil and carry-on, business as usual. I'm right, you're wrong. We do what I say. Terror. War. Evil dooers, etc.

Or, he could see that there was some validity in his opponents ideas and that certain positions that seems right at the time shold be "rethought".

IG

sgsmitty

on Nov 03, 2004

Terror. War. Evil dooers, etc.

A major reason why I voted for him is the above aspects.

Zoomba

on Nov 03, 2004

I'm glad Kerry did the right thing and just conceded without dragging this whole thing out in the courts etc like Gore did in 2000. This is perhaps the ONLY thing he has done to strengthen the Democratic party as a whole. We were so smashed up after the five weeks of recounts in Florida, our credibility totally shot. We came away from the last election as really sore losers... hell some of us are still pissed about that. This time around we shouldn't be seeing much of that, for which I thank Kerry.

We lost, fair and square, it's time to look towards the next four years and try to figure out how to make the best out of them.

FreeMark

on Nov 03, 2004

InfoGeek and thatoneguyinslc

You are so right...Bush should move to the center because that is what won him the election. It is obvious that nearly half the country disagress with him so he should do what they want instead of what the half that actually VOTED for him want.

Silly.

I know...I know the nation is more divided than ever. Yep, the division is that there are winners and losers. I don't think you give a damn about the division you just don't like that one slice is bigger than the other and it is not your piece.

He is going to ignore the 44 Million...he has no reason to pay any attention to them...they will never vote for him or any other Republican. Besides that, he cannot be relected...Cheney is not likely to run and the party is not going to advocate a shift to the center when all election long they have been cast as right wing zealots and still won. Apparently the electorate likes right wing zealots (at least right now) so they would be IDIOTS to listen to you.

They have the power and they should enact their ideas...you don't have to like it...and it may scare you but so what?

CamMeg

on Nov 03, 2004

Hehe I guess Bush knew us on the "Internets" had his back all along. Stocks went up after Kerry Conceded hmmm wonder why hehehe YESssssssss!!!!!!!

Daiwa

on Nov 03, 2004

Good one, CamMeg.

Another irony: Limbaugh's theme song - Ohio (The Pretenders).

Cheers,
Daiwa

terpfan1980

on Nov 03, 2004

Reply #6 By: Citizen InfoGeek - 11/3/2004 12:49:33 PM
just hope bush 2.0 realizes how polarized the country truly is, and tries to move more to the middle.

That's what I was thinking. Yes he won but 44 million people he governs do not like what he is doing in some respect. He could ignore the 44 mil and carry-on, business as usual. I'm right, you're wrong. We do what I say. Terror. War. Evil dooers, etc.

Or, he could see that there was some validity in his opponents ideas and that certain positions that seems right at the time shold be "rethought".

IG

Correction - looking at the exit poll data, approximately 80% of Kerry's support came from people that weren't supporting Kerry, but instead seriously disliked Bush. 48 - 51 million people, less 20% is something closer to 38 - 41 million U.S. voters (not necessarily all of them even citizens) that dislike President Bush. On the other hand, of Bush's 52 - 55 million votes, some 80% of his voters were voting for him because they liked and supported him, while only approximately 20% were voting for him because they disliked Kerry. That puts about 10 million more people into the potential pile of people that don't like Bush (to some degree). So, total, it's possible you have something between 38 - 50 million people that don't like Bush.

If I were Bush, I'd ignore many of that pile of people until they decide perhaps it's time to work together to get things done rather that working on blocking any progress at any cost just because you don't want Bush to get credit for having accomplished anything.

InfoGeek

on Nov 03, 2004

If I were Bush, I'd ignore many of that pile of people until they decide perhaps it's time to work together to get things done rather that working on blocking any progress at any cost just because you don't want Bush to get credit for having accomplished anything.

I guess it depends on your definition of "work together", If you mean that since Bush is in chage we all bow down and agree with whatever he says, then no, there is not going to be a lot of "working together'. If you mean that both red and Blue realize that both parites have valid reasons and that compromise is possible, then yes, both can work together.

IG

mgosh

on Nov 03, 2004

quote]If I were Bush, I'd ignore many of that pile of people until they decide perhaps it's time to work together to get things done rather that working on blocking any progress at any cost just because you don't want Bush to get credit for having accomplished anything.

Looks like the people have spoken by outsting Dashel and putting in place a Freshman Republican. Perhaps the country at large is tired of all the stalling and the inefficency of the government and the partisan politics. Perhaps in these next four years we'l see improvement in that regards. The greatest unity was shortly after 9/11 when everyone in Congress got together and declared we are all Americans, how short lived that moment was.

COL Gene

on Nov 04, 2004

The problem for our country is 49% do not want what Bush is selling. That has been and is the major problem in America. If Bush moves forward with policies that only satisfy the 51% we are in for a hard four years!

Grim Xiozan

on Nov 04, 2004

If it was reversed would Kerry have bridged the divide, hmm?

Oh well.

Good post, Draginol as always.

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