lemme see some contemporary documentation of any bonafide union with a charter that calls for replacing our constitution with the communist manifesto.  while youre looking, check out the 2004 texas republican party platform...specifically the plank that calls for pretty much the same thing as the nrm's statement. otherwise mb's fantasyworld union=communism analogy is not merely unsalient...it's just plain old pointless

That doesn't change the fact that they want to change laws and add laws that are going to be communist in nature (i.e. to make the workers more powerful). Do you honestly think that the nation's going to be changed into a theocracy or a communist state with one action? No, it's going to be a gradual process if it happens. Is what you're saying is that it's all right for groups to turn some parts socialist or theocratic, as long as it's not the entire thing?
Also, if at least one union leader desires the nation to be a socialist or communist state, then that must mean they all do, just like how since some religious organizations want to turn the nation into a theocracy, that means those ~31% who voted for Bush on religious faith or moral values want to turn the nation into a theocracy and are all part of one of those theocratic organizations.

communist in nature (i.e. to make the workers more powerful

hahahahahahah 

Do you honestly think that the nation's going to be changed into a theocracy or a communist state with one action?

the dominonists have been working on it for about 25 years.  this was a good year for them.  that's why theyre suddenly so vocal about the bush administration delivering for them in the next 4 years.   check out jerry falwell's website.

the dominonists have been working on it for about 25 years.  this was a good year for them.  that's why theyre suddenly so vocal about the bush administration delivering for them in the next 4 years.   check out jerry falwell's website.

So, because they take credit for Bush's win, that means that they actually were responsible for Bush's win and that his win means they'll win?

I also ask again: Is what you're saying is that it's all right for groups to turn some parts socialist or theocratic, as long as it's not the entire thing? If not, then unions are as much of a threat as Jerry Falwell.

So, because they take credit for Bush's win, that means that they actually were responsible for Bush's win and that his win means they'll win?

they seem to think so. 

I also ask again: Is what you're saying is that it's all right for groups to turn some parts socialist or theocratic, as long as it's not the entire thing?

rather than indulge your word games, let me reiterate my response (see reply #18) to keillor's statement: any group determined to replace our constitution (which does not contain the words 'god', 'jesus', 'bible') with a dominion based on biblical law with rulers who act according to divine revelation rather than by consent of the citizens--especially if it involves the collusion or assistance of those sworn to uphold the constitution since they would be violating that oath--risks having its members' citizenships involuntarily relinquished should patriot act ll be voted into law.

Kingbee can laugh it off, but calling union goals communism is about as rational as calling Christian political aims theocracy, as the paranoid here do, over, and over, and over...

The comments on my blog about religion in government recently were frightening. Those opposing religious participation n government sounded *exactly* like McCarthyists, snooping out all those covert commies. No, scoffers here have NO right to laugh off anyone else banging the communism drum when they themselves are spouting paranoid, intellectual equivalencies...

"I can hear it now.... "are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the christian church.....""

Nah, they'd never have the guts for that. As of now they just check up on nominees, ask some leading questions, and then filibuster their nomination or ignore them politically. As far as voters, all they can do is whine and try to scare people with vague conspiracies, just like they did with socialists. The McCarthy parallel is even the same in Hollywood, if not quite as bad... yet...

lemme see some contemporary documentation of any bonafide union with a charter that calls for replacing our constitution with the communist manifesto.  while youre looking, check out the 2004 texas republican party platform...specifically the plank that calls for pretty much the same thing as the nrm's statement. otherwise mb's fantasyworld union=communism analogy is not merely unsalient...it's just plain old pointless

YOu just lost.  Check out the Wobblies.  Still around and Kicking.  DId you know that Samuel Gompers was a member of the Wobblies?

I would say that is the point, set and match.  You lose.

"otherwise mb's fantasyworld union=communism analogy is not merely unsalient...it's just plain old pointless"

ALMOST as pointless as an idiotic "Christians with political power"="A Theocracy" analogy...