Absolutely, considering that Microsoft terminated OEM reseller version availability back in 2008 and system builder availability in 2009.

Hmmm...it takes 2 hours to create an uber tweaked x64 Vista version with vlite. Also, all of the older games are running on my x64 Vista, including the Dosbox games.

I also missed the poll. I tend to do most forum reading from the Sins site since it is reasonably well organized and the developer journals rise to the top making it easy to find the new threads. The forum native to Impulse is horrible and I generally avoid it unless looking up issues related to other developers. Haven't visited the official Elemental site in months, but now I see there is a need to. That said, bring on V 1Z4 and let the testing renew. I still experienced the occassional CTD with V 1Z3 but save games were stable enough to continue on... Hopefully, the newest patches will address the numerous previously reported bugs as well as help out those still trapped with the XP experience.

Darvroth

Can we expect a Change Log for 1Z4 before Staging tonight? Not to be pushy though...

Hm....what's up with the 1Z4 update? It's friday already!

They never said it would be the Thursday (although usually it is their prefered day slot for it). I suppose that they have had an input overflow from the factions/race threads.

They never said it would be THIS week

I know, I know....

Probably next week.

Thanks for the info Froggie, and sorry for my impatience...

Folks who've never worked in or around software development probably have no real appreciation of how much respect you deserve for the "Probably" there. I admire it greatly.

Cool. Back to trying to hit the 500 Turn mark that will re-load.

Actually I think that pretty much applies to almost everything. People tend to under estimate how much time and effort it takes to do something until they actually do it themselves. This goes for a lot of things as I've met a lot of people who brush things off as shouldn't take that long to do X Task and then when they actually do it they have some elaborate story of why it took them so much longer then they thought/said it would. And yet rarely extend the same courtesy to someone else when that person doesn't finish Y Task in the time they think it should be completed despite having no experience in doing Y Task themselves.

I just think it's a bit more obvious when it comes to software because as UI becomes simpler and user friendly people think oh you should just be able to push a few buttons and get it to do this. So more and more people think of themselves as "tech savy" and even the media talks about how kids today are more tech savy. But from what I've seen most of them are only tech savy up to a very shallow point of knowing how to "use" the devices that are designed to be super user friendly. Yet they don't realize how much went into making it so they could just push a few buttons to make it do that.

Just like most people don't realize all that went into making their cars work so that you could push two/three pedals, use a gear shift, turn a wheel, and etc. to move something that wieghs about a ton, depending on make and model. Todays cars have so much electronics in them even though not much has changed from the users point of view a ton of things have under the hood. You can tell this all the time when you hear people complain about car repair cost and comment "How hard is it to replace a single part?". And that's how the tech industry is in general with people on the outside looking in saying, "How hard could it to do that?".