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Published on March 1, 2012 By Draginol In Personal Computing

Am I the only one who has wished they could press a button when reading some trolling comment and summon the troll to their presence?

Not to punch them in the nose or anything but for study. What kind of person is a troll?

My personal favorite troll that I encounter is the entitled gamer. Are they an adult? Do they have a family? Do they literally live under a bridge?


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on Mar 02, 2012

That's not trolling....thats manipulation.

Anyone who deals with councils on a regular basis [me] knows it all too well....

on Mar 02, 2012


Remember...you can always buy a car...but its purchase does not also buy you the right to drive it.

 

No ... instead you also have to buy driving lessons, and then you buy a drivers license, and then you have to buy car insurance ... and THEN you have bought enough stuff to drive a car.

 

Frogboy
I don't think fistalis is being entitled here.

I agree. I think there is a difference between being truly 'entitled' and merely wanting to retain access to a purchased product.

 

Fistalis...I think you have just exemplified 'entitled'.

I believe this was a bit harsh. I don't think he was claiming to own the IP for any of his games, merely being irate at the inaccessability of such games.

 

 

-> My definition of an entitled gamer is someone that clearly has a god complex, and feels that just because he fancied to pirate game X for a few days, he should be lord and master of all things game X related.

Someone who puts no effort into the actual production of a game, but instead feels that the game must suit his every need or be banished to the farthest reaches of hell.

on Mar 03, 2012

Tasunke
No ... instead you also have to buy driving lessons, and then you buy a drivers license, and then you have to buy car insurance ... and THEN you have bought enough stuff to drive a car.

Wrong again....you cannot 'buy' the privilege to drive a car...you can only apply for/pass an 'acceptance' exam it's a test not a foregone conclusion....

on Mar 03, 2012

I think, at least in some states, you don't need to pay for the license until you pass ...

but paying for the written portion is a different story.

on Mar 03, 2012

I reject this whole "driving is not a right it's a privilege" baloney.   Yes, it's a right.  The Declaration of Independence America was founded on says that humans are endowed certain inalienable rights by their Creator:   Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.   The right to drive is liberty.   Making it a privilege the government gives us permission to do goes against the precepts America was founded on.

on Mar 03, 2012

If driving is a right might as well make flying a right as well ... At least you will always have Bicycles and Horses

 

As for the analogy, I don't think it works. For the analogy to work, I think the car manufacturer should be able to recall the Car once its been bought or once its gone bankrupt.

After the Car is recalled, those with new ownership get to decide if they will give you your car back, although they probably wont, and will ask you to buy another car (or rebuy the same care even).

That would be a more appropriate analogy.

on Mar 03, 2012

Yep, flying is the same right, and always has been.  Being able to drive and fly is what liberty is all about.   Having to get the government's permission to travel wherever you want, whenver you want is precisely what we have always hated about the Soviets.

on Mar 03, 2012

The car analogy may work, but with some specifics:

When I buy a game, my system needs to meet the minimum requirements to be able to play it.  If it doesn't, then, while I may complain, the supplier has no responsibility to come upgrade my system so that I can play.  This equates to meeting the requirements to drive (a drivers license, insurance, etc.), but not necessarily to buy the car in the first place.

To me the following would be a better example of digital distribution brought to the automotive world.  Let's say that I bought my car from Dealership A.  Every time I drive my car the anti-theft device connects to this dealership to verify that I am the legitimate owner before I can turn the key.  A year later, Dealership B buys Dealership A and suddenly my car is not able to connect to this system and won't start.  I still meet all of the 'Minimum Requirements", but my anti-theft system denies me access to driving my car until either Dealership B makes my information available as before, changes my anti-theft system so that it will now contact Dealership B, or replaces the component in my car that handles the anti-theft system. I guess I could take my car to the "mechanic" that claims he can "fix" this, but then I take the risk that my engine may die at any time. 

Now, to be more on topic.  When I personally think of someone "trolling" it is a person who is posting just to get a response.  They don't post their actual beliefs or feelings, their posts are only meant to illicit an emotional response from the OP or group as a whole.  It is a very intentional process.  The "entitled" gamer is not really a troll, they are even more annoying! They actually believe what they post and will argue it until the end.  Sometimes it is hard to tell the two apart, I realize,

 

on Mar 03, 2012

The car analogy may work, but with some specifics:

When I buy a game, my system needs to meet the minimum requirements to be able to play it.  If it doesn't, then, while I may complain, the supplier has no responsibility to come upgrade my system so that I can play.  This equates to meeting the requirements to drive (a drivers license, insurance, etc.), but not necessarily to buy the car in the first place.

To me the following would be a better example of digital distribution brought to the automotive world.  Let's say that I bought my car from Dealership A.  Every time I drive my car the anti-theft device connects to this dealership to verify that I am the legitimate owner before I can turn the key.  A year later, Dealership B buys Dealership A and suddenly my car is not able to connect to this system and won't start.  I still meet all of the 'Minimum Requirements", but my anti-theft system denies me access to driving my car until either Dealership B makes my information available as before, changes my anti-theft system so that it will now contact Dealership B, or replaces the component in my car that handles the anti-theft system. I guess I could take my car to the "mechanic" that claims he can "fix" this, but then I take the risk that my engine may die at any time. 
 

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on Mar 03, 2012

tetleytea
Yep, flying is the same right, and always has been.  Being able to drive and fly is what liberty is all about.   Having to get the government's permission to travel wherever you want, whenver you want is precisely what we have always hated about the Soviets.

 

Posts like yours are the reason I said in my first post it's not so much about 'entitled gamers' as it is about 'entitled society' at this point.  All I know is as a canadian my rights are actually limited and very specific; my priviledges however are plentiful and very appreciated.  The humble (non-entitled) attitude of the individual who is part of a nation comes across as the nation's attitude on the world stage.  Personally I'd rather be seen as humble than entitled anyday! 

on Mar 03, 2012

Specifically, I mentioned 'flying' as the ability to PILOT one of those large flying machines, by right of birth.

Cars and Planes are moving death machines, and operating such vehicles by 'right' is an absurd notion.

 

It would certainly be cool if the ability to fly on a plane, emigrate, and immigrate were rights though

-> and hopefully those three things will remain a privilege far into the future

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