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Some thoughts
Published on October 26, 2005 By Draginol In Current Events

In the battle of Okinawa, a small island in the Pacific ocean, over 12,000 Americans died and another 38,000 were seriously wounded.

Mind you, this was to take an island that was tiny and had a population less than part of Baghad. And we're still there today.

Luckily, Americans were a little bit tougher of skin back then.  We didn't shirk or slink away from paying a high price to do things that were important in a larger sense. 

2,000 Americans have died in Iraq over the past 3 years.  That's 1/6th as many people who died -- within the span of a few days -- in a single battle on a single island in World War II. 

Those Americans gave their lives in a cause they believed in.  In a cause that serves our country and even the rest of the world even if much of that world (those ironically many of whom were either our enemies or sat on the side-lines back in World War II) doesn't appreciate it. 

Those Americans were not sent there to find "WMD" or for "oil".  They were sent there to topple an evil, corrupt regime that had twice attacked its neighbors, had used whatever weapons it had at hand in war, was violating the cease fire from the previous war with the coaliation, and quite clearly was working its way through the so-called "Sanctions" to the day when it could restart programs to gain for itself horrific weapons to use or distribute to enemies. 

Those Americans were sent to a country that is literally in the middle of a region that is formenting people who want to exterminate not just every single American but the entire western way of life. 

Those Americans gave their lives to help put in its place a country that we hope will become democratic and representative but at the very least won't harbor terrorists who can plan at their leisure further attacks on this country.

Those Americans gave their lives as a part of a broader war on Islamic terror.  And while some don't see the connection between Iraq and Islamic militarism, the same could be said of not seeing the connection between the attack on Pearl Harbor and the US invasion of French North Africa.

Luckily, the greatest generation of Americans were made of sterner stuff than what today's Americans are apparently made of. They rolled up their sleaves and went to work and made possible the world we have today where we have the luxury to hyper-analyse every combat death that occurs in the name of securing freedom and security both there and at home.

The families and friends of those 2,000 men and women can hopefully take comfort that they gave their lives in a cause that was as noble and true as any cause that warriors have fought and died in.  As an American, I want to express appreciation for their sacrifice that has helped make all of us a bit safer and helped make the world a better place.


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on Oct 27, 2005

O.k but how many are coming home missing limbs?

How many Suicide Bombers have been paid $25k in the last 2 years?  Or is the only blood that is red, American?  You best look at those fingers pointing back at you because your attitude is why so many Hate America.  Let me clue you clown, All people's blood is red! And sometimes, good people have to stand up and fight evil ones, regardless of their native tongue.

on Oct 27, 2005

only those who refused to see the obvious.

What an Egotistical and arrogant attitude.  Reminds me of Hitler's Uber Mensch syndrome.

on Oct 27, 2005
I'm afraid it is the American voters who are to blame


only those who refused to see the obvious.



Oh, and tell me Kingbee, thou bright and shining morning star of great light, what it is that I am not seeing that should be so obvious?

I could say the exact same thing about liberals...why can't you see the obvious that Saddam was a monster, who needed to be dealt with. A monster that we would have had to deal with (if not now, then later) with much, much more bloodshed....See, I can play the Mr. Obvious game too...Not that you will accept what is so blatantly obvious, you gotta be a dead blind bat not to see it!! /sarcasm off

That's why only 2000 soldiers died in three years


2000 dead americans really aren't that important to you, are they? 15,000 wounded, half of em so seriously they can't return to duty? no big deal either, huh?

how many would be too many in your estimation?


ummm...it is a military operation. There are LIVE bullets flying around...PEOPLE WILL BE WOUNDED...AND GASP....SOME WILL DIE.

It is fighting where if you don't kill the enemy first, then they WILL kill you. Sure there will be soldiers that will die....hey, that comes with the job!! Here we go again, playing the Mr. Obvious game....
on Oct 27, 2005
what makes you think they wouldn't have dumped eisenhower just as fast as they did shinseki?


I'm just wanting to point out that the "Army Chief of Staff" has been replaced every four years on schedule since before WWII. General Shinseki was no deferent, keeping him in the position longer then four years would have changed the schedule. It has always mystified me why people claim that he was fired, when he left on schedule.

General Eisenhower and Macarthur were theater of war Commanders. Much like the Central Command General is Today. Big difference.
on Oct 27, 2005

Or is the only blood that is red, American? You best look at those fingers pointing back at you because your attitude is why so many Hate America. Let me clue you clown, All people's blood is red! And sometimes, good people have to stand up and fight evil ones, regardless of their native tongue.


Very true and very politically correct. And I see only conservatives agreeing with it!

on Oct 27, 2005
I sure don't feel sorry for the other side dying....the more of them that are dead, means the less of ours that will die


Well I feel most for the innocent, those who were not fighting us and died in the process. For those who thought were doing the right thing but maybe now would think different if still alive and in the end for those who were our real enemy cause in the end they were just as much human as we are and their different mindsets made them an enemy who, for the better of the rest of the world, needed to be eliminated.

BTW, killing rats and roaches in great quantities has never completely eliminated or stopped them from being what they are so I don’t see why we would believe that eliminating a few of our enemies could make you think that more dead is less we have to deal with later. Just a thought.

maybe you should read Pat Buchannans post on www.antiwar.com. Hes a conservative
with some SENSE ... you idiots just repeat the same old warn out talking
points


Funny, we repeat but you can’t stop yourself from name calling cause it’s your only strike back strategy. Why is it that you have to say idiots simply because we don’t agree with you? Does that mean that since you don’t agree with use does that make you and idiot as well?

Let me go on record as stating:
I DONT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT ONE (NOT EVEN ONE) IRAQI.

I AM AN AMERICAN ... WE HAVE OUR OWN PROBLEMS.

Let him rape the entire country if he wants to ... he is not immortal. If
they cant get rid of him themselves thats THEIR problem not mine.


We do have our own problems, starting with people like you. No wonder we can’t take on step forward into a better life. With people like you holding us back it’s more like a broken record repeating the same mistake over and over. Grow up already.

on Oct 27, 2005
Thank you for your insightful article. Even the comments have proven that this topic tends to degrade into spitefulness....and you stated your position clearly, without resorting to namecalling or overstating the case. Nice to see for a change.
on Oct 27, 2005

What an Egotistical and arrogant attitude. Reminds me of Hitler's Uber Mensch syndrome.

it's egotistical and arrogant to recognize flawed policy for what it is?    if so, we're in big trouble.

as to what's reminiscent of hitler (i hope to never see you criticize anyone else again after this lil outburst of yours), since you brought it up, i can't think of a better example of an arrogant, egotistical political leader dismissing his generals' advice outta hand. there was also that very unwise decision to needlessly rush to open a second front.

on Oct 27, 2005

General Eisenhower and Macarthur were theater of war Commanders. Much like the Central Command General is Today. Big difference.

you did notice my mention of zinni in an earlier comment? 

on Oct 28, 2005

(i hope to never see you criticize anyone else again after this lil outburst of yours),

Wrong o!  I did not call you a Hitler.  I said your statement reminded me of the Uber Mensch.  Better get that bee out of your bonnet.

on Oct 28, 2005
you did notice my mention of zinni in an earlier comment?


No, I didn't. I just checked your post on this thread with the find option and #54 is your first Zinni comment. If your comment appears on another thread, could you please provide a link?

i can't think of a better example of an arrogant, egotistical political leader dismissing his generals' advice outta hand.


But when you have every other branch Military Chief of Staff, every other Army General who will be around to execute the plan, and the Theater Commander requesting the plan that we did use, I would believe the President would pick the 20 officer's advice over the one. Hardly placing Bush into the realm of ignoring advice from the majority of his Generals.

In the end, using every military asset early (also causing the delaying of the invasion until the 120 degree mid summer in Iraq) and leaving nothing for replacements, would have lead to even bigger problems. Anybody who thinks the insurgents would not still be there today with an initial 500,000 man force and 50,000 man follow on, is closing his eyes to reality. This is not the first Gulf war where we go in kick ass and leave. The US Army is only a fraction of it's first gulf war size due to the 90's draw down, and thinking a temporary massive increase of bodies would have changed anything is silly and not using ones assets strategically.

Then even if Bush would have used the single General's advice, people on the left would be complaining even more about the cost, sending troop in during the middle of summer, pulling even more troops out of Afghanistan, any other reason, or my favorite "Ignoring the Advice of the Majority of his Generals".
on Oct 28, 2005

it's egotistical and arrogant to recognize flawed policy for what it is?


It's egotistical and arrogant to pretend one's own opinion is accepted fact and beyond doubt.
on Oct 28, 2005

it's egotistical and arrogant to recognize flawed policy for what it is? if so, we're in big trouble.

What's egotistical is that you believe your opinion is fact.  You feel the US invasion of Iraq was a bad thing. Me, and millions of others think it was the right thing. 

I am sure there were people who felt sending hundreds of thousands of Americans to their deaths to help liberate Europe was a mistake.  Based on some of the behavior of some continental Europeans, I am starting to wonder myself.

on Oct 28, 2005

Based on some of the behavior of some continental Europeans, I am starting to wonder myself.

Some turned out great!  Look at Andrew (Leauki)!

on Oct 28, 2005
Iraq did not attack America. Iraq did not have the ability to attack America. Iraq was not a danger to our country. The 2000 lives we lost were not to make us safer because we were not in danger from the country we attacked. No rogue state would ever attack a major power for the simple reason that dictator would lose his A*s if he attacked a major power much less the world's only Super Power. Bush elected to attack Saddam and has created a larger number of radical Moslems that are willing to conduct another 9/11 or worse. How has our attacking Iraq made America safer?
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