i hope most actual dota players dont come to demigod i played demigod for the 4th time ever and the host who died right infront of me calls me a noob and kicked me and i dont wanna see those guys in demigod, which we cant control so at least take the kick feature off if ur admin otherwise new players will get kicked by these pros just because they did 1 thing wrong

That kick function you're talking about wasn't in DoTA, its a third party program that blocks you're IP from connecting to the hosts, thereby removing you from the game.

Blizzard already made that program not work with custom maps in warcraft 3 also. So there really is no problem here

I think you may have joined a "pro only" game perhaps? But even if you didn't, you can't possibly hold it against the developers if other players don't want to play with people who suck and ruin it for them.

Loom; it was an average titled game. Of course I wouldn't join a 'pro' game on my first tries.
Icefrog isn't the nicest of characters, and (I'm not sure its his code) but has alot to improve in his jassing.

And until blizzard hosts Custom Games on it's server, it will be near impossible to stop custom kicks.
All players send their local data to the Host, which in turns sends the data to all players so they are sync'd properly. This is why resource hacks are impossible; get out of sync and you're disconnected.
I believe patch 1.22 change some strings around so ShadowFrenches custom kick does not work, but it just takes time to find the strings again.

Kicking indeed works perfectly fine again, and we are talking about wc3 not supcom!

And, windexglow, have you cracked dota or something? Otherwise how do you know what his coding looks like? and even if you did.. where did you get the files to reconstruct his triggers? (as cracking the map you play with will only give a mess of code that isn't formatted, unless you have the files he (probably) backed his triggers up in)

And if your talking about the dota templates... they're actually very good, leak free, and they work! Whats wrong with that?

Got faith in the team, but you're a big big tease in the SP department. I know you're a SP buff, but with so little info on that I do get wild with my imagination and can only picture a bunch of skirmish maps to play against the AI.


Either way, can't wait for this!

By wasting 3 games for 9 players, you wasted let's say about 13.5 hours for them (10 minutes to setup a game, loading, pick heroes etc + 20 min actual game, to a total of 0.5 hours * 9 players * 3 games = 13.5 hours). So, it's totally ok for you to waste 13.5 hours of other's time, yet you don't have even 8 hours of your precious time (obviously, you don't care about other's time) and complain that others didn't teach you.

Read forums, watch replays, play against AI. There is no time to teach someone during the game. When you're playing a _team_ game, you should play, not ask stupid questions. There is no time for chat in RTS games. If you want to chat during the game, use Team Speak or something.

Well, it's a developer's fault when game with a sharp learning curve doesn't divide new and pro players so they don't ruin the game for each other. With DotA, there is a problem that it's a mod, not a standalone game, so mod developers can't do such feature.

Ellestar you prove Feynt and Windexglow's points quite well.

 

Yeah.

I hope Demigod is something DotA players might like, as that's a big potential customer base, but I hope you don't have to like DotA to like Demigod if you know what I mean.

But then again, much of the DotA community is incrediably rude and immature.

I'd like to think that the majority of the dota community is not incredibly rude and immature and that it only seems that way because the rude and immature crowd are much more vocal.  If you think about it, in a game with 10 players, there's usually only 2 or 3 really obnoxious ones.  Sometimes it may be 4 or and sometimes you may feel like the only one with a sane head, but generally I'd say its 2 to 3...  Here's hoping.

Actually its relatively simple, even using the GUI triggers. If the developers wanted DotA to have kicks they could do it in a blink of an eye.

You'r right. it's usaully 1-3 people per game out of 10.

But 30% of people being douches is still quite a lot.

 

 

Oh I remember playing UT back in 1999.  People did this amazing thing where if you were typing they wouldn't attack you.  There was an animation when you typed, hand pressing against the ear and nodded.  about 99 out of 100 people, if they saw you, wouldn't attack you and get an easy kill/point(unless it was CTF, then a lot more people would kill you for obvious reasons.).  People cared more about sportsmanship and fair play than adding +1 points to their score.

By the time UT2003 came.. it still had this same animation, but people would always kill you while you where typing.  The maturity of people degraded so much in just 4 years, and now it's even worse. :/

I guess I'm more immature and arrogant than I was too, probably from dealing with all these kids and immature people in games..

 

So from less than 1%, to 30%..

UGH no edit button.

I wanted to add:

Not only that, but if someone DID accidently type-kill someone in UT back then, (since it's so fast paced, you often jump aroudn a corner, see someone, and just reflexively shoot them without thinking before you can see what they're doing) they would often offer the person a free kill to make it even.

 

How much things have changed.

It's the spread of the Internet. Back in 1999 (I was 7 lol), there weren't many people on the web, and those who were tended to be the type who'd spent hours messing with their technology to get on the web. Not many 10-year-olds were there (cept me lol) because online gaming wasn't so accessible. Now, every retard who can open the cup holder can get online, and all those kids see is other retards. Which is a bad learning process.

 

Yeah, it is just the annoying noobs who're loud in the game - I see maybe 2 noobs in a 10-player DotA game. The other 8 just play, and only talk about stuff like "[Allies] is it okay if I go solo in the bottom lane?" and "[All] lol, thought I was going to win for a second there". I tried out Garena last night: it's a gaming platform where you can play certain online games with an experience system, and less delay than you'd find on Battlenet. Because Garena takes some setup, it excludes most noobs - with the exception of my friend (whose laptop overheated 9 minutes in and crashed), everyone stayed to the end and was good-natured about how the game worked out.

I　wwant to know will Demigod be friendly to newbies who have not have much experiences in these semi-tactical/RTS type games.  I　don't know how to classify Dota, but i do know that it is part RTS part tactical and part team vs team oriented.   I was told by a friend that to learn to play Dota, i have to be literally throw myself into the deep end learn by being masscare a few hundred times, afterwards the longer i surive longer and longer, i will learn the feel for the game.  He then summed it up as follows, if one wants to have a fun time, don't play games like Dota or Counter strike online.  because in the beginning, you will get kill or raped over and over again. It is like those atheletes who competes in professional sports, they don't enjoy the practice, but then as long as they win, then after they have won, they enjoy it, because they do it to know that they can be better than an other human being doing the same difficult thing. Soo playing Dota is like that, people don't play to have fun, people play to be better than others and to satisfy their egos.