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New movie to serve as a barometer of kooky left wing interest
Published on June 22, 2004 By Draginol In Politics

Fahrenheit 9/11's success or failure will provide a good measure of the political temperature of the United States. In my mind, Michael Moore is a villain. An unscrupulous opportunist who brings new meaning the to the phrase "the end justifies the means".  The end, of course, being the ouster of George W. Bush.  The means, in his own small petty way, is his new smear movie, Fahrenheit 9/11.

This review at Slate takes the movie apart bit by bit. I highly recommend reading it. If his propaganda piece on gun violence in America (Bowling for Columbine) was harmless, this propaganda substance is not. The central premise behind Bowling for Columbine was that "white America" has had a long obsession with guns and gun violence (largely due to being afraid of stuff). Forget that gun violence of "white America" is essentially the same as it is in peace-loving Canada, that doesn't fit into Moore's agenda. 

This time around, Moore's premise is that the Bush family is enthralled to the Saudis in various nefarious ways (as well to the Bin Laden family). Forget that the premise is absurd to begin with. What's really amazing is that Moore actually expects people to ignore the contradictions with these concepts.  After all, how can Bush be in the pocket of Saudi interests and be going directly against Saudi wishes by going into Iraq?

But Moore, far from being the "common man", seems to believe that the common man is a fool. A dupe. A chump. Even a year after 9/11, Moore wasn't convinced that Al Qaeda (or Bin Laden) was behind the WTC attack. And yet somehow he became convinced that we should have done more in Afghanistan? Good grief. Unfortunately, serious leaders can't wait years to take decisive action.

As Christopher Hitchen writes:

In late 2002, almost a year after the al-Qaida assault on American society, I had an onstage debate with Michael Moore at the Telluride Film Festival. In the course of this exchange, he stated his view that Osama Bin Laden should be considered innocent until proven guilty. This was, he said, the American way. The intervention in Afghanistan, he maintained, had been at least to that extent unjustified. Something—I cannot guess what, since we knew as much then as we do now—has since apparently persuaded Moore that Osama Bin Laden is as guilty as hell. Indeed, Osama is suddenly so guilty and so all-powerful that any other discussion of any other topic is a dangerous "distraction" from the fight against him. I believe that I understand the convenience of this late conversion.

But it's not just there that Moore wants to have it both ways with history. Bush, regularly portrayed as someone anxious to go to war is also shown as being stunned into stupidity and inaction at the news of the WTC attack. Well which is it? Either he's an empty headed moron robot or he's a warmongering neoconservative looking to settle dad's scores.  How about this alternative explanation: Like millions of normal Americans, the attack on the WTC left him stunned and for several minutes he had to contemplate what to do next.  I consider myself pretty sharp but I remember just watching slack-jawed on TV when that second plane struck the World trade center. I was dumfounded. And I was dumfounded for more than 7 minutes.

Most disgusting is Moore's sympathy to Saddam.  According to Moore, Saddam's Iraq was no threat to any American. Really? Is this the same Saddam who tried to have Bush Sr. assassinated?  The same Iraq that regularly fired on US planes patrolling the no-fly zone? Is Moore so out of touch with the "average American" that he can't see how many of us considered Saddam a long term threat that could no longer be tolerated in a post-9/11 world?

Moore, author of "Stupid White Men" can't help but take morbid stabs at the assumed cowardice of white people (perhaps he projects too much of his own self?). In an interview, he opines that if the passengers of those flights on 9/11 had had mostly black people, they would have fought back. What a racist, gratuitous slam on the victims of 9/11.

Hitchen writes:

In a recent interview, he yelled that if the hijacked civilians of 9/11 had been black, they would have fought back, unlike the stupid and presumably cowardly white men and women (and children). Never mind for now how many black passengers were on those planes—we happen to know what Moore does not care to mention: that Todd Beamer and a few of his co-passengers, shouting "Let's roll," rammed the hijackers with a trolley, fought them tooth and nail, and helped bring down a United Airlines plane, in Pennsylvania, that was speeding toward either the White House or the Capitol. There are no words for real, impromptu bravery like that, which helped save our republic from worse than actually befell

But if that doesn't take the cake for disgusting attitudes, Moore has apparently made public his intent to aggressively go after his critics, legally if necessary. Ah, it is important to observe his right to smear his enemies (real and imagined) with impunity but any criticism returned needs to be cut off at the knees eh?  More and more, Moore makes himself the poster child of the left-wing of American culture. Dishonest, disingenuous, cynical, elitist, and hypocritical. 

Speaking as a fellow-Michigander who actually did grow up in a blue-collar area (down river eastern Michigan), I find Moore's elitism disgusting particularly as he tries to portray himself as just a "joe American".

If his movie is a box office hit, it will send a chilling signal that the the American culture has an appetite for petty vindictive overtly left-wing propaganda.  I fear that like his last Oscar-winning drek, that some people will walk out of the theater having bought into the manipulated "facts". I fear a repeat of the same ill-informed thinking of "Agree with him or not, his movie gives you a lot to think about".  Because in reality, they really don't give you much to "think about". Quite the opposite. These are films that are designed to indoctrinate.


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on Jun 24, 2004
Draginol:
Interviews and clips can be misleading and presentation is something that is very important. Movies are meant to get us to think, feel, look at the world in a way we might not have previously. Most reviewers, even those who disliked it say that it did elicit a response from them. Dismiss it if you wish personally, but not seeing it because of what you say you have seems a bit shortsighted.
on Jun 24, 2004
Moore makes me sick! How he can pity Saddam is beyond me. That's all I have to say.
on Jun 25, 2004
Strange how many people have something against a man that tries to make you think for youreself ?
on Jun 25, 2004
a man that tries to make you think for youreself ?


I don't think that's Moore's goal at all. He's a propagandist.
on Jun 27, 2004
Saw the movie today, and it was great. The theater was packed, and everyone applauded at the end. It has all the elements of a good film -- a riveting story, humor, pathos, soundtrack, and cinematography. The audience was laughing, crying, and applauding. It's is a film for not only those who love America but for those who need to see that we are not those people who should be representing us but rather are using us. This film is human. The film is humane. The message is a plea for true justice and honesty. This is a beautiful movie -- no wonder it's won the prizes. If it is propaganda, then it's to counter the propaganda and lies we've been told (at least some of which are easy to uncover). It is not, as Hitchens says, "a barometer of kooky left wing interest." Rather it is a film that appeals to our loving hearts. An it's a film that remind us to stand up for our freedom -- our freedom from demogogic fear and our freedom of speech.

(To Hitchens: Maybe the president would be dumbfounded and frozen to his chair, but the Secret Service should not have been.)
on Jun 27, 2004
Same reason I liked "Day After Tomorrow." Sure, its whole premise was based on exagerations, but because I agree with the premise, the entire movie was honest and factual and if there were any lies in it, it's the fault of people who don't believe in global warming.
on Jun 27, 2004
isn't it about global warming causing another ice age? I haven't seen the movie, but I've been told that's what happens. It dosen't make sense to you does it? i mean... if i take ice cubes and put them in an oven the oven won't get cold if i turn it up to 450.
on Jun 27, 2004
It's a well-accepted scientific theory. "Global warming" is a misleading name. Scientists prefer "climate change."

Basically what happens is that climate change hurts the *transport* of heat upward from the equator. So the poles see net cooling (so glaciers advance), and the equator sees net warming. There's pretty good evidence that this happened in the past. *However* it wouldn't happen overnight like it did in the movie.
on Jun 27, 2004


Our freedom to think exactly like Michael Moore.
on Jun 27, 2004
funniest quote i heard about the moore movie controversy:

7 theaters in my town, and none of them are showing the movie.

Obviously my community loves America a lot more then yours.
on Jun 27, 2004
Sounds as though those communities don't value freedom of speech. How sad for all those victims of censorship who are not allowed to decide for themselves whether something is worth their time or not.
on Jun 27, 2004
At the onset Id like to point out that I have no political affiliation either left or right or middle. I follow my own heart and consciousness when it comes to voting. In Oz at least it is compulsory to vote, whether you vote for Mickey mouse or any of the numerous political parties that are out there each one of us is obliged to vote, which I think is a greater system than only those who could be bothered to at the time.
I think history has shown us that the general public is usually not shown everything that goes on behind the scenes when it comes to making political decisions or when multinational corporations have a say in what goes on with the major political parties. I think it is important that all sides are open and honest and show what they believe to be true. Whether or not it is true or not to us, at least they get to show their sides. It is then upto each one of us to make up our own minds what is true or not, and noone is going to make it up for you but you.
A good barometer of truth is the thing inside us some call our "little voice" or conscious. Listen to it, it will never let you down. We all have those moments when we look back and think..Gee I wish I had listened to myself.. Well no Bush or Cheney or Moore or anyone is our barometer of truth. What I usually find is that when someone is telling you what is truth..they usually present some facts and while your mouth is open they also insert some non facts. So it is upto each one of us to make that decision, what is truth and what is non truth for us.
Im finding it interesting that the republicans are trying to stop this movie being shown and going out of their way to debunk it. If it is full of lies and distortions then it will show itself to be that when people watch it. You have to give credit to the people watching it to have some intelligence, they will know if it is true to them or not. Follow your own truth, it is really important in these times.
on Jun 27, 2004
Sounds as though those communities don't value freedom of speech. How sad for all those victims of censorship who are not allowed to decide for themselves whether something is worth their time or not.


I completely agree with you. I'm going to start a protest because the theaters in my city no longer show Mean Girls even though I see it in other theaters still.
on Jun 27, 2004
Moore makes me sick! How he can pity Saddam is beyond me. That's all I have to say


There was a certain man who pitied the Romans when they tortured him... forgiveness and pity for your enemies are noble emotions.

Sounds as though those communities don't value freedom of speech. How sad for all those victims of censorship who are not allowed to decide for themselves whether something is worth their time or not.


I completely agree with you. I'm going to start a protest because the theaters in my city no longer show Mean Girls even though I see it in other theaters still.


The problem is that patriotism is measured by how you don't want to do something, rather than as a way of uniting the people. The people in these communities who say things like that are setting themselves against and above their fellow Americans, and in doing so are weakening the national fabric. The problem is not that the movie is not showed; that's an entirely economic decision, and probably wise if the townspeople don't have any interest in seeing it. The problem is that the townspeople feel more patriotic than others because they don't consider opposing viewpoints.

There's a great short story about a town like this, with a byline that's something like "tempt us not", but unfortunately I can't remember its name.
on Jun 27, 2004
It seems like these communities are united against the movie. See? The system works!
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