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Wow. I mean, wow!

San Diego county is demanding that people stop inviting friends over to their home for a bible study on the grounds that they do not have a permit.

This is why, I don’t care where you stand on most political issues, I fear government power.

A lot of people view politics as either liberal or conservative.

I view it as the tug of war between those who push for anarchy and those who push for tyranny.  We live in the relatively comfortable area in-between.  However, in the past 50 years, we have seen a pretty steady march towards tyranny brought on by both political parties.

The Republicans invite tyranny in the name of “Security” and the Democrats invite tyranny in the name of “Fairness”.  But no matter how you spin it, tyranny means a loss of liberty for the individual.

I’m not religious but it’s none of my business what my neighbors do in the privacy of their own home as long as they are not infringing on the rights of others.


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on Jun 01, 2009

Don't you know? If you are not supporting the Christians "rights" to impose their beliefs on others, you are in fact mostly against them. /sarcasm

 

 

I won't go so far as to say that, but I am skeptical of her claim.

on Jun 01, 2009

The ACLU is not usually a friend of Christians.  In fact, they are mostly against them.   Almost every Christian I know shudders when they hear mention of the ACLU.  Usually when the Christian rights are violated, the question asked is "where's the ACLU when you need them?"

Yes, the right-wing media loves to hate the ACLU.  I think the ACLU is odd, and can't always agree or disagree with them.  As it turns out, a news story (from today) has this quote:

"10News learned that the American Civil Liberties Union has come out in favor of Jones."

The ACLU is backing the people holding the Bible Study.

on Jun 01, 2009

After reading the last few comments I now see my fear realizing itself as some here ignore the main point of the story which was an argument of whether these peoples religious rights were violated or not and instead are focusing on Fox making a mistake (as if they never do, they are only human after all), crying about Conservatives and making fun of Christians. It's amazing how people would rather lose their freedoms and liberties just to be able to insult and/or make fun of the opposing party.

on Jun 01, 2009

It's amazing how people would rather lose their freedoms and liberties just to be able to insult and/or make fun of the opposing party.

 

If you included me: How was I insulting or making fun of anyone?

 

My problem: If I am going to be using a bureau (for lack of a better term) for my news, I damn well expect them to get their shit straight. (i.e. facts) This goes for CNN, NBC, etc as well. As for christians, when it comes to KFC's comment - I want to see her proof. Otherwise it's just hearsay/nonesene, in my opinion.

 

 

on Jun 01, 2009

Well, I think the first couple responses pretty much covered it. Freedom of religion, especially within one's own home should be respected.

However, if the street is as crowded as I suspect with that many people, the neighbors might not be out of line complaining. Especially if the excessive cars hinder emergency vehicles from getting where they need to be. I don't know about you but if I need paramedics, I don't want them to have to "go around the block" to get to me because it is faster than asking a dozen people to move their vehicles.

Even throwing that worst case scenario out, I don't want to have to go hunt down some unknown individual so I can get out of my carport either.

on Jun 01, 2009

I know of regular poker parties with more than that.

3 tables?  what kinda stakes?

any open seats?

on Jun 01, 2009

I don't know if you need a permit to invite more than 15 people to an organised event in your house in California.

Isn't a little thing called freedom of assembly in the constitution?

EDIT: on reading the snopes article, they have a point. They are trying to manage parking and transportation, when you have dozens of people come to your home at once, every week, it completely fills up the street and is not really appropriate. The county backed down, but that means the neighbors are stuck having to deal with the slew of traffic.

on Jun 01, 2009

FOX' news quote that says they just wanted to "have a few friends over.")

I consider 15 as a few friends.  Every bday party, grad party, Euchre night, scrapbook party, etc. that I've been to has had way more than 15 people. 

They weren't out on the lawn of the municipal building or at the public library.  They were in a private home with private guests.  That's just crazy!

on Jun 01, 2009

15 people or OVER 15 CARS

They weren't out on the lawn of the municipal building or at the public library.  They were in a private home with private guests.  That's just crazy!

Actually that was the whole problem... they were having dozens of cars come in every weekend... and one of them hit a neighbor's car who complained to the city. Which then investigated and decided not to persue it. The officer who conducted the invistigation said they will probably need to get a permit, but he has no authority over this thing, he was just giving ill advised advice. The person in charge of actually persuing such things did not do so.

on Jun 01, 2009

Is anyone surprised that FOX didn't reveal all the facts?  The snopes article states that they averaged about 15 people - which was the major reason for saying they needed a major land use permit.  (I still don't agree, but it contrasts with FOX' news quote that says they just wanted to "have a few friends over.")

We have 15 people over during get togethers very regularly. Do I need a permit too?

on Jun 01, 2009

not really appropriate

One person's opinion.

on Jun 02, 2009

We have 15 people over during get togethers very regularly. Do I need a permit too?

If you have to ask, checking with your municipality should be a good idea. That's the kind of situation that no one really care about until there is a complaint, and then someone shows up and check the law.

 

on Jun 02, 2009

If you included me: How was I insulting or making fun of anyone?

You forgot "focusing on Fox making a mistake". You see, I didn't leave you out.

on Jun 02, 2009

However, if the street is as crowded as I suspect with that many people, the neighbors might not be out of line complaining. Especially if the excessive cars hinder emergency vehicles from getting where they need to be. I don't know about you but if I need paramedics, I don't want them to have to "go around the block" to get to me because it is faster than asking a dozen people to move their vehicles.

Even throwing that worst case scenario out, I don't want to have to go hunt down some unknown individual so I can get out of my carport either.

I agree, this should have been about the damage to the neighbors vehicle and about the crowded road these bible studies may have been causing. This should not have been about them unlawfully congregating for religious reasons.

on Jun 02, 2009

the crowded road these bible studies may have been causing

Even that is an 'invented' problem.

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